Hi Rich,
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Originally Posted by RichC
Nicely done Bob ... but just because I'm making the forum aware of what is being published doesn't make me anti-hybrid.
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I too have posted anti-hybrid articles from time to time but I make sure to include the counter facts and data. I do that because it provides readers with 'ready answers' when such nonsense is tossed in our faces by well meaning but terribly ignorant folks.
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Originally Posted by RichC
Personally I still prefer my long running biodiesel powered TDI over a hybrid since I make several 4 hour drives on the interstate each week. I like being able to fill up with a carbon neutral domestically produced fuel, return an average of 45 mpg, enjoy the spirited 'tuned' performance I get from my VW Jetta and take pleasure in both the current resale value and longevity possible from diesel cars.
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On a carbon neutral fuel-transportation cycle, I agree. As for the means, I have no problem with modern, well designed and maintained, engines regardless of cycle: Diesel, Otto, Atkinson, Sterling, turbine, internal or external.
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Originally Posted by RichC
Again, I'm not dissing hybrids ... but since subject of this thread seems to ask for debate thought it was a good place to offer up that article? Maybe 'all' of the authors' opinions are wrong ... nevertheless not many hybrid owners know the life cycle of their batteries or the gasoline going into their tanks. (as fuel sipping as they may be)
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Understand that I have no problem with posting anti-hybrid articles provided their worst claims are answered. The archives of just about every hybrid forum are sprinkled with anti-hybrid postings and the ensuing debate. But as I shared with someone else, I've had to deal with 'propaganda' techniques for such a long time that the pattern has become too familiar. Whether for or against something I like, it just rubs me the wrong way to see semantic tricks used to defend what the facts and data show to be wrong.
One thing useful that has come out of this discussion are two new 'persons of interest:'
MARTIN DELGADO - the author of this article who crafted these semantic falsehoods.
DAVID MARTIN - an environmentalist who seems willing to blame hybrid electrics for Canadian mining pollution.
It has been my experience that what happens is these 'useful idiots' are cited and quoted by more venial, anti-hybrid advocates. These names become excellent search terms for future attacks in mainstream media.
The familiar pattern is one disreputable source publishes a lie or a rumor of a lie. Then the rest copy and write and publish articles about "the issue" while claiming no responsibility for repeating the lie or doing fact checking needed to puncture the falsehood. That is why it is so important to do the fact checking.
Please don't take this as anything but an explanation of how this engineer sees the world. I'm thankful for an opportunity to supply the facts and data while saddened that it is necessary.
Bob Wilson