The only car I have owned that I wanted to turn traction control off was My "01 Mustang Cobra. I wanted it to always be off in that car as I wanted a bit of wheel spin. Directional control was modulated by the gas pedal as much as it was by the steering wheel. When traction control did kick in, it felt like you threw an anchor out the window. Subtle it was not! On my TCH, I would rather it just do it's job and help keep me out of trouble. Now if I had a sports car, I would want the defeat button, but then again, that button is expensive. I think I went through $1500 in tires for the year we had the Cobra. The rear tire could not stay on that thing.