Re: Highlander Hybrid vs Ford Escape
Gary:
“So your saying EV is possible up to 50mph? “
Seen it in EV as high as 65. Not speed limited. They must have figured out how to beat the torque shock that limits the other hybrids.
“Ok, let me understand this better. The FEH does not have engine braking, it uses the traction motor as a generator which slows you down. I think "B" is the same thing as the FEH "L" and will charge the battery faster with pure regen, am I right? I use "L" for both shutdown, but mainly for regen to continue long EV driving. So the HH can travel at speeds up to 50mph, but can you give me a distance before the battery restarts the ICE?”
“B” is not the same as “L” because of the engine braking. You get the extra regen like the FEH, but you pay an engine braking penalty as well, so it fails the efficiency test. This is according to the manual.
I have a couple of runs in my daily drive where I run a little more than a mile. I can do the same run the same way in either vehicle. The biggest difference is that if I hit a bump and ‘drop out’ of EV in the FEH I have to double tap or hit L to get back into EV. On the HH, I just lift and re-apply the throttle, much like a fake shift.
I use it the same way and it seems to provide longer and 'free-er' coasting."
“Can the HH be towed all four wheels down in neutral? That will help me figure the drive link. Also, does coasting in neutral feel free-er than Drive?”
Don’t know about the towing. It feels exactly the same when coasting as the FEH does.
“That's very good mileage for the AWD FEH, is your HH 2WD or 4WD? I would only be interested in the 2WD HH down here. At any rate, 30-32mpg is much better than I've heard in any case.”
Mine is an AWD. The third traction motor lives in the rear of the truck and is only invoked when traction or acceleration requires it. No real penalty except for weight, AND it does contribute to regen.
The HH is REALY powerful. The ICE makes 212 lb/ft of torque, the motors make 247 lb/ft and the addition rear adds 96 lb/ft. That’s well over 550 lb/ft.; enough to melt all four tires were it not for traction control. I’ve seen road test times of 6.2 sec 0-60 with 15.23 quarters. You don’t have to use it, but it is nice to have it on tap.
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