Thanks again Mark

"Seen it in EV as high as 65. Not speed limited. They must have figured out how to beat the torque shock that limits the other hybrids."

Wow!

"“B” is not the same as “L” because of the engine braking. You get the extra regen like the FEH, but you pay an engine braking penalty as well, so it fails the efficiency test. This is according to the manual."

In order to know you have real engine braking, the RPM's must increase when you let off the gas pedal I would think like it does in 1st or 2nd in a standard automatic or any gear with a manual transmission in a lower gear than your speed. The HH has a eCVT right? The reason I bring this up is the FEH manual uses engine braking terms when it's talking about regen. The FEH is only simulating engine braking so they use that term. Could it be Toyota does the same thing?

"I have a couple of runs in my daily drive where I run a little more than a mile. I can do the same run the same way in either vehicle. The biggest difference is that if I hit a bump and ‘drop out’ of EV in the FEH I have to double tap or hit L to get back into EV. On the HH, I just lift and re-apply the throttle, much like a fake shift."

That sounds great!

"I use it the same way and it seems to provide longer and 'free-er' coasting."

Ok

"Don’t know about the towing. It feels exactly the same when coasting as the FEH does."

It would be in the owners manual under towing or Recreational Vehicle maybe.

"Mine is an AWD. The third traction motor lives in the rear of the truck and is only invoked when traction or acceleration requires it. No real penalty except for weight, AND it does contribute to regen."

I knew about the separate motor and did wonder about regen.

"The HH is REALY powerful. The ICE makes 212 lb/ft of torque, the motors make 247 lb/ft and the addition rear adds 96 lb/ft. That’s well over 550 lb/ft.; enough to melt all four tires were it not for traction control. I’ve seen road test times of 6.2 sec 0-60 with 15.23 quarters. You don’t have to use it, but it is nice to have it on tap."

That's more than enough power for me these days. The way I figure out what works and what doesn't for MPG, I think I would have a field day with the 2WD HH. The one thing that turned me off early was I was told you must run premium fuel to get the better mileage, is this true?

GaryG