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Old 05-05-2005, 01:17 PM
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Default Re: Don't Be Fueled: Gas vs. Diesel vs. Hybrid Power

Thanks for the link, Jason. I've made some interesting notes:

First, let's trash the hybrid cars:
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Studies show the average driver only gets 75 percent or so of the mileage figures that are on the sticker
That means Prius average is only 45 MPG,
HCH is 37
Insight is 47.
Makes me wonder why they didn't site the source of their "studies"?
Apparently they don't know of (Or ignore) some of our outrageously fantastic MPG's?
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A 2005 Civic LX gasoline sedan with manual transmission and many comparable features
I wonder why they didn't make a more accurate comparison to the EX model
I guess their price gap would be smaller. They didn't mention the important safety/desired items missing from the LX?
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But even if drivers maximize their fuel savings and get the full 13-mpg benefit in the (Civic) Hybrid (Over LX)
13??? How about more than 25MPG better while maximizing?
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hybrid battery packs are toxic and likely to become troublesome to dispose of. But automakers say current nickel-metal hydride batteries are recyclable.
Funny how they hint that Nimh batteries are toxic while they are not, and refers back to automakers "claims".
And here comes thier glowing diesel review.
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Their price differential over gasoline models generally is much smaller than that for hybrids. For example, Volkswagen's midsize 2005 Passat diesel sedan has a starting MSRP of $23,360
Notice how they didn't mention that a comparable hybrid, such as the HCH is about $2,000 cheaper than their BASE Passat price? Then they compare a $ saving to a Passat AT vs a base Passat AT, not a MT Passat vs MT Civic or base Prius.
Pretty sneaky if you didn't catch that. The premium $ diesels pay over gasoline also isn't mentioned.
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Diesel engines are known for their durability. Hence, they're standard fare under the hoods of big semi-trucks
Guess they haven't researched VW problematic track record.
After all this trash regarding hybrids they have only 3 "possible" insignificant objections.
I wonder if this is a paid advertisement of sort?

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Efficient drivers do it better.
1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT

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