I went from a brand new 2005 Camry SE (4 cyl) to the Camry Hybrid. The Camry SE had amazing handling and was a blast to drive. Going from that car to the Camry Hybrid has been disappointing (for the handling reason and the throttle lag), but understandable since the current hybrid is not yet targeted towards people wanting sporty cars. I would happily part with up to $3000 if I could get an SE package added to my car. Hmm... The downside to having the SE performance was evident when I traded it in at 15,000 miles. The $300 a piece Michelin sport tires that came with the car were noticeably worn down (due to the soft rubber and more aggressive driving style the car allowed me to have). Also, when the hybrid finally decides to "open up", I get an impressive burst of power that did not exist in my 4-cyl Camry SE.