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Old 07-20-2007, 01:00 PM
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Wink Re: Suing for mileage claims

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Originally Posted by firenurse4 View Post
Respectfully I believe your assertions to be false.

When I was considering the purchase of our Vue Greenline, the salesman clearly explained how the technology worked. It was very clear to me that the Vue was a mild hybrid design. I was in no way abused by Saturn or GM as you claim and any lawsuit as you suggest would be equally frivolous.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Early on, I learned that in Europe it is a common practice to manually stop their engines when at a light or other traffic delay. This is what an auto-stop system does but no one proposes a manual-stop system has made all gas-only cars into "mild hybrids."

To me, the auto-stop looks like an ordinary starter with an automatic start-stop. It is something I could 'retro-fit' to my wife's Echo using the existing battery and alternator. I could probably build-it using a fairly simple circuit or a microprocessor. But that would never bring her MPG up by a significant amount, enough to justify the effort.

Now if the community is happy with auto-stop being labeled a "mild-hybrid" and the consensus is folks are happy with it, I won't stand in the way. But from an engineering standpoint, a "hybrid" is:

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Originally Posted by TheFreeDictionary
Genetics The offspring of genetically dissimilar parents or stock, especially the offspring produced by breeding plants or animals of different varieties, species, or races.
2.
a. Something of mixed origin or composition.
b. Something, such as a computer or power plant, having two kinds of components that produce the same or similar results.

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The lack of motive power on electricity alone takes an auto-stop out of the range of a hybrid gas+electric vehicle.

Bob Wilson

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Automatic, stock, project car.

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other 1500 cc car:

Automatic, stock, backup car.
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