I can understand the value in real-world customer experience. That is precisely the value of this forum. And CNet's posted user reviews, etc.

That said, I have great respect for Consumer Reports testing methodolgy.

In this case - reliability - CU needs long-term data on as many cars as possible. Hence, the reliability report is a customer survey. No doubt statistically analysed and normalized.

Anyway, I understand that the transmission problem with the V6 Camry was rough shifting through 2nd gear, that Toyota already had implemented a fix. It was a hardware problem with the transmission design. I understand that the problem with the AWD Tundra also affects the Lexus sedan, and that Toyota as yet does not have a general solution. But they stand by thier warranty.

As far as environmental groups complaining about Toyota - topic for another thread. I think it's another ploy to grab attention at the expense of integrity. Phooey.