Hi Fired_up:

___If you have read any of Viet’s AH or Accord posts here or over in the Edmunds Accord Hybrid forums in the past, you will find he is the epitome of the Honda and especially Accord enthusiast. He would not mean harm to anyone, anywhere, at anytime from what I have seen of his posts in the last 3 to 6 months.

___And on to the PZEV automobiles. The non-hybrid Civic is not available in a PZEV format other then the NG (Natural Gas) version. The HCH is, although only in the 5 + clean states. As you have surmised, the PZEV based HCH and/or Accord are not available in the Midwest so you would have to travel some distance to pick one or the other up. If you think like an environmentalist (it sounds as if you do?), the trip out to CA., MA., ME., NY., or VT. for either PZEV is definitely worth the trip. The 1,000 miles out to MA. and the 1,000 miles back for my PZEV brought me at least 2,000 miles of smiles if that helps

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net