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Old 01-24-2008, 10:26 AM
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Real Name: John
Location: N.Colorado & S.Minnesota
Hybrids: 2005 Ford Escape FWD, 2000 Honda Insight
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Default Re: Are Plug In Cars More Costly Than Gas or Hybrid Fillups

I had the pleasure to drive a Plug-In Ford Escape ( two times ).

With careful, gentle driving at speeds only zero to 39 MPH and an average speed of 22 MPH considering the time standing still at lights....

50 miles of EV cost $2.00 of electricity.
So looking at just the "fuel" cost it is cheaper. About half price.

But the batteries are very expensive... so you'll probably not break even in cost in 15 years. However, most people interested in the technology are not into it to save money.

And ALL the "fuel" in the form of electricity was at least, domestic.
Many mid-west prarrie states are installing wind farms. I'm seeing them pop up like mushrooms. Take what ever the U.S. gov says our wind power capacity was in MW in the most recent report and probably double it... since the statistics folks can't keep up with the construction folks. A wind turbine ( up to 3 MW per mill ) can go up in just a few weeks. There's very little involved. All the pieces are trucked in and installed by a very small construction crew.

A company called "Vestas" is just about ready to open a wind turbine factory in Colorado. Right now, the company ships the turbines and blades in from over-seas. Later this year, the large blades will be made right in the central U.S. The actual generators will come from somewhere else.

I drive 3000 to 4000 miles per month over the mid-west interstates.
There's not a single month when I don't pass turbine blades (120 feet long... radius ) going down the highway on modified logger trucks.

Along I90 in Minnesota alone, there's several hundred mills in operation already... with a nominal 1 Mega-watt each. And they only need 10 MPH winds. Along I80 near the Colorado / Wyoming border theres a few hundred also. I can "buy" wind power for my home for a few dollars extra per month ( $3 to $12 based on useage ).

Kansas has inititatives to start windmill farms. For some strange reason, I also see NIMBY signs along the highway in that state. What kind of a view are you going to block with a windmill on the Kansas plains? They are silent and pollution free, and dont take up any farm land. You can grow corn right up to the post the windmill sits on. And the blades are high enough off the ground, you can drive your tractor or combine right up to the post. The post is only.... 6 feet? in diameter?

I'll post some pictures soon.
-John
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