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Old 02-12-2008, 01:29 PM
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Talking Re: Smoke and Mirrors

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Originally Posted by gpsman1 View Post
The way I see it, ethanol adds oxygen. With E40, I'm adding about 8 times more oxygen molecules than gas with MTBE.

The O2 sensors in the CC detect more oxygen. Per look-up table, the computer says "unused oxygen is coming out the tailpipe, thus I need to add more fuel to take advantage of this oxygen."

Isn't that how the feedback loop works?
When I moved from E40 to E10, I reduced the oxygen. At the same time, same RPM, same wheel speed, fuel trim went down 75%. ( from +16 to +4 ) The cars runs a fuel trim of zero with pure gas.

Looks like in my car the Fuel trim adjusts, and the spark timing doesn't.
Maybe if I trick the car to run more lean, the spark will adjust?
I like your model better than mine. You are adding a significant amount of oxygen with ethanol and it hadn't occurred to me that this would adjust the fuel trim by 'tricking' the O_{2} sensors into doing the right thing. Very nice!

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