Thread: PHEV Lite
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:38 PM
Billyk Billyk is offline
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Default Re: PHEV Lite

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The HCH-II has an EV mode - You are mistaken. There is no photo to take because it doesn't have a light that says "You are in EV mode". But when you are not using gas (ie mileage pegged at 100) and the assist is running - you are in EV mode. Now - the Honda can't get to speed without gas but once there it most definitely can shut off gas to the engine and be fully electric. It will not go into this mode above 65 or 62 miles per hour - I can't remember. Now - it is a very limited EV mode but there is an EV only mode. My last mile of my commute can be EV mode only - admittedly a lot of downhills. Running that much EV really drains the small battery - hence the ability to pump it back up would be nice at home.

Yes - the HCH will stop charging in Neutral. But in neutral - you will use gas to keep the engine running - ie it will idle. So doing that makes no sense. What would be nice is the keep the ICE tied to the wheels but not having regen. The FEH I don't pretend to understand but it is different in many ways to the HCH. You may be wasting gas in the FEH by putting it in neutral to coast. Many newer vehicles (even non hybrids) cut gas significantly at speed with no throttle - by cut gas - I mean less than idle. In these vehicles shifting to neutral to glide is a gas wasting habit. The HCH uses zero gas on throttle off (at least when warm) but does have to use gas to idle.

I think you are confusing what "charger" means - that means to charge the battery. If you have a heater - that is great - obviously doesn't void the warranty. But that is not a charger. I lumped the two together because you could have a combo unit that you plug in with one cord. Each gives a small increase in mileage (more if cold temps). A charger that would not be factory authorised (and there are non that are) would most certainly void the battery warranty.
I am not aware that the HCH has any EV capabilities and maybe someone should post photos/video of this in action. Documentation of EV duration (distance) would also be helpful.

The FEH does not burn any "gas" while in "N" and while in electric mode. Fuel cut off can also be induced without going into electric mode, especially on downhill thru shifting the eCVT into "L" and then back into "D" when the RPM's spike.

I understand what the term "charger" refers to in regard to the hybrid battery's state of charge status. I actually attempted two different ways to increase the hybrid battery's state of charge status at rest but was unsuccessful. The normal FEH hybrid battery state of charge is 40 to just under 60%. I understand the HCH hybrid battery state of charge is between 50-80%. Is this correct?

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2005 AWD Escape Hybrid
Best tank trip MPG 39.02 (scangauge II) for 402 miles on I-70, 10.3 gallons used over mostly flat terrain.
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