Thanks mikieboyblue!! It is nice to start participating in a forum with some many other people who love the Camry Hybrid!! I do spend a lot of time tinkering and I'm glad so far I have mostly success stories. I am going to start posting some threads because I guess if people want to try some of this stuff, I have learned a thing or two. Also I do have a couple of "I would have done it different if I had known" stories!!! Do what your time will let you squeeze in, at least you bought the right car!!!