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Old 07-20-2005, 09:23 PM
lakedude lakedude is offline
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Default Re: Biofuels provide less energy than their production requires.

Thanks for the info.

Side note:

I almost bought a diesel last week! I need a boat puller and the new Jeep Libery comes with a really cool 2.8L direct injected turbo common rail diesel that puts out 163 horse and a whopping 295 ftlbs of torque.

The reason I didn't purchase is because the diesel does not use the same price structure as the gas Liberty's. The gas versions have employee pricing and $2000 rebates. The diesel is $2k more expensive to begin with and does not have employee pricing. Plus the diesel rebate is only $1k. All total that makes the diesel a $4k plus option. Between the high cost, newness and overheating issues I decided to wait. Also we are due for better fuel soon adding another reason to wait.

I loved how the Liberty diesel drove. It was great on the road. The diesel was a little clattery when the beast first fired up but after warming up it was pretty quiet and drove great. I'm getting more and more interested in diesels. Please join me in a new thread on diesel tech...

At: http://www.greenhybrid.com/discuss/s...7668#post17668

Last edited by lakedude; 07-20-2005 at 09:30 PM.
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