Re: Blind pedestrians may not hear hybrid cars
First off, welcome to GreenHybrid.com. One of the moderators here, we look forward to discussions and we encourage folks with different points of view.
One thing you mentioned is difficulty getting "registered." I know NASA has some standards to make sure web sites work for the blind. I don't know the technical details but was wondering if you might have a good URL for systems we can use to test access for the blind?
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Originally Posted by lodro
A strong argument, based upon the second study, would require the blind to wear a half-top, motorcycle or bicycle helmet when walking. They might still be injured but the helmet would greatly increase their survival rate regardless of the vehicle involved in the accident. A blind safety helmet could include electronic enhancements to extend their hearing range and detect oncoming traffic. So along with their white cane, a white safety helmet, possibly with a super-bright, flashing, LED, would improve their outcome while walking.
The blind may suffer from a narrow understanding of acceptable solutions . . . when all you have is a hammer, all problems resemble a nail. Reduced to touch and hearing, it is natural that they would think adding sound solves the problem. Yet they are also being struck by ordinary vehicles today. It would be a tragedy if the last thing a dead pedestrian heard was faux engine noise, which looks to be the only solution proposed by the blind. I thought I would add something to this discussion, which I found by chance:
I am a blind pedestrian, and I'm simply amazed at the lack of knowledge about how I and others who are blind actually travel. I was in Stockholm last summer, where a substantial number of taxis are Priuses. It is disconcerting, because they make no noise: that's no problem if they are mixed in with conventional cars, but when a lone Hybrid is in my space, I might have a problem. Right turning cars at a green traffic light are always a problem, with hybrids the problem becomes a bit more serious. I assume you know, that a white cane, used when I cross the road, means cars MUST stop. The suggestion that I would have to wear a helmet so drivers can violate basic rules of traffic simply makes no sense. The suggestion that "electronic aids" will ameliorate the basic problem is simply ludicrous: I don't need to extend my range of hearing, I simply need meaningful input to discern whether it's safe to cross the road. So I listen for traffic surges and for the sound of cars that are stationary as they wait a traffic light. Also, I don't need LOTS of noise: just enough to let me know what cars are doing. That's all. I don't see why that should be a problem. And I must be honest with you: sound is the only reliable solution here. The GPS suggestion may look nice technically, but it will never help me in everyday life. And the wearing of helmets: I already announce my presence as a blind person in traffic: it is others who should observe the rules of traffic in this case. Almost everyone I know (blind) who has had an accidence had this happen to them either by the carelessness of car drivers or because they relied on a sighted person who said it was "safe to cross". I've been traveling, sightless, for most of my adult life, the only accident I've had was with a bike rider who didn't see me. And I didn't hear him.
By the way: this site's captcha made it impossible for me to register without sighted help.
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I just returned from the National Highway Transportation and Safety Administration meeting held Monday, June 23. Did you get a chance to attend or hear much about it?
About the other items, I'd like to share my thinking: - protective gear - this is meant to deal with an accident, not to give license. Bicyclists and in some states, motorcyclist wear helmets to minimize fatalities. If I go roller-blade or skate-boarding, I'll have gloves, knee-pads, elbow pads and a light duty helmet. If at dark, I'll also have a light. I do these things not to give 'license to kill' ("Hey Earl, let's see how far that roller-blade guy will bounce.") but rather to deal with distracted, inattentive drivers who may miss seeing me but not their bumper. Also, I'm sometimes clumsy.
- hybrid cars - actually there was an interesting presentation by Les Blomberg, Noise Pollution Clearinghouse, and he pointed out the bigger picture is the high ambient noise is masking not only hybrids but all modern, smaller cars. It is like trying to hold a conversation in at a party. Over time, the sound levels grow louder and louder as everyone tries to communication until you are nearly shouting into someone's ear. He had some excellent charts showing how this "sound masking" works. This is why using a hearing aid won't work. Amplification of an over-loaded audio doesn't make it clearer, it just sells more aspirin.
I've used the GPS in my studies and realize it is too imprecise for this task. It has its uses but not in this case.
Hopefully, later tonight you'll enjoy reading my 'trip report.'
Bob Wilson
Last edited by bwilson4web; 06-24-2008 at 02:09 PM.
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