When I go into a dealership, I'm prepared with as much knowledge about the vehicle I'm looking for as I can. Like Pravas Prime said also, I've read as much as possible this last 7 months about the Sanyo/Ford HV battery and knew your friend was being lied to. My local dealer gave me an internet quote of the sticker price with no other fees. He didn't tell me that it was the sticker price, but I knew it was from my Broker. To me, withholding information is the same as not being honest. If I had ordered my vehicle from the local dealer, what other lies would come up during the order process?

I consider myself lucky having a Broker who works at my Credit Union who deals with these Fleet Managers on a daily basis. His fees are paid by the dealership at a locked in price on all deals. There is no incentive for my Broker to lie and the dealers want to continue to get his and my business on other purchases in the future.

In your friend case, the dealer had an incentive to lie. Your friend had a relationship with the salesman, and the salesman just didn't want to rip off a friend so he lied. My Broker would choose to just tell me I had to pay $2,000 over if that was what it would take to get an allotted unit. The first thing he told me while he was on the phone with the Fleet Manager was I would have to pay sticker. I said okay and we ordered the vehicle. We all knew ordering began on 4/17, and production started on 6/23, so we knew it would be sometime after that my unit would be built. Here is a copy of my window sticker and at the top is a code that gives the date it will be built - 120080716 (08-07-16).
http://www.blueovalforums.com/forums...e=post&id=7358

So it took 23 days from the start of production for my '09 FEH to hit the production line. Glad I had a honest Broker!

GaryG