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Old 09-07-2005, 07:33 AM
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Default Re: “Tbaleno takes the Gloves Off” w/ his CVT based HCH - P&G ;-)

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Originally Posted by xcel
Hi Lars-ss:

___Hmmmm … Let’s start out at 18 + bars first although I do not think that is an issue at all. I haven’t driven the HCH w/ a stick inside the techniques boundaries so it may in fact act differently. Hit the highway for about 5 miles and turn the lights on to bring your SoC up before you start. After that, perform the technique just as described above. You should see your SoC fall ~ 2 bars at each pulse and then at some lower SoC, you will not see any Assist during any pulse following. This is the SoC you want to hold during every P&G cycle afterwards. Forced charging may or may not appear in the MT but if you stay at 1 bar and do not see any Assist, something is holding her at 1 bar and I can only assume a heavier hidden charge is at work. If you do see Forced charging on a pulse, that is another tip that the SoC is where it should be and the BCM is controlling just as it was supposed too.

___Are you saying you have never seen a forced charge down at that level of SoC, ever? I never had the opportunity to drive the Insight 5-speed using this technique but the BCM has to kick and say hey, its time to bring the SoC up or you would deplete the pack after X many of Assists (dependant on rate of discharge) and it would never charge back up. In fact, it would be a useless paperweight afterwards! The pack has to be depleted to some relatively low level before the BCM says no Assist and only Forced or Hidden Charging can take place. I am thinking you are not into the accelerator enough possibly? A 2,450 - 2,650 RPM acceleration in the CVT is not what I would call a light take off in the least. Play with your acceleration rate until you see a Forced Charge appear given you own the stick. That will lead you to Auto SoC control although it may not be the optimal acceleration rate?

___Last item … Have you had the ECU update performed by chance?

___Good Luck and keep us updated.

___Wayne R. Gerdes
___Waynegerdes@earthlink.net
Wayne,
On the issue of the forced charge at low charge levels, I cannot ever recall seeing that. Maybe I *DO* need to hit the accel a little harder - will try that today and post back.

And I did indeed have the famous ECU update, in July. Hard to know if it has affected my FE because of the hot humid (for us anyway) temps of this summer have forced me to use more A/C than last summer to avoid being a dripping wet pig at the end of my drive. So that probably has had more effect than the ECU update, but I cannot be sure about that until I get a few more months in and can compare last year to this year.

Thanks Wayne....

Larry S.S.
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