Wolfman,
I think you misunderstand what he is saying. He isn't trying to best you in FE. What he is saying is that it is possible to get better than EPA of some hybrids buy pulling out all the stops and making a regular vehicle act more like a hybrid.

He is saying that if a manufacturer can impliment some of these techniques that hypermilers use that aren't related directly to a hybrid system then the manufacturer can infact get a great deal of benefit.

These techniques along with a simple BAS do have the possiblity of getting equal mileage as some of the more sophisticated hybrid systems at a much lower cost.

My hydroponics experiment

You ever notice how hard it is to lip read cartoon characters?
"Crazy is what the sane call Delta Flyer"