I read the cover story of Newseek with Sen McCain on the cover on the topic of Torture. It was an interesting read.

McCain's premise is while the US could outlaw torture, it will be broken on occasion, but only when there is a very good reason. Lincoln broke the Constitution during the Civil War, explaining if he didn't there would not be a Constution to save....FDR also broke laws during World War II, etc, etc...

I think EricGo's concern is the Reichstag's burning scenerio - broad-based emergency powers to deal with terrorists that include political opponents like it did in pre-Nazi Germany. That experience is exactly why German courts had to rule on allowing early elections, BTW.

As McCain sees it, if torture was outlawed, situations like Abu Giraub would not take place. However, if we had credible evidence al Queda was going to detonate a nuke in a major city, the use of torture very likely would be used. In such an instance, I doubt an interrogator would be punished for saving NYC.

This is an issue because it got out of hand. It was applied to way more than Osuma's top lieutant's (to them, I have a hard time sympathizing with them).

The war in Iraq is not the problem - it's the occupation. The resources for the occupation were underestimated and underplanned. It is embittering the Arab/Muslim world against the US.

I don't see he Bush administration using broad powers against terror suspects indefinitely - accountability is already being demanded.

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