Hi AZCivic:

___Thanks for the sales info. I have been reading a bunch over at ToV today to catch up

___GoNavy, you made a good overall analysis of the AH in its present form. “If they” is the big question and now that it has been out for almost a year, Honda will have a tough time trying to increase sales by properly marketing it from here on out.

___On a similar note, preliminary Camry hybrid ICE specs were recently leaked and although they are using the I4 w/ HSD, they are still pushing HP (192 HP) and performance pizzaz instead of FE as I believe they should have targeted. The Prius II took off (imho) because of its 60/51 rating and nothing available here in the states could touch it. The Camry’s I4 when atkinsonized + HSD’s HP/torque will make it an 8 second sedan but it will never see south of 50 mpg except for those of us taking it to its limits It will make for an interesting year with the Fusion hybrid coming in 08. As long as Ford doesn’t pretend to use their poor excuse for an ICE (their ancient 3.0 V6), they may end up with the upper hand in this game with a higher overall city/highway FE rating then the AH (easy) and the Camry w/ HSD (a little tougher). An Atkinsonized 2.0e (100 HP) w/ an MG2 worth ~ 75 HP all on its own for 50/50 + should do it?

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes