The reason I started this New Thread is that I see the inability of accessing the ‘Points of Interest’ (POI) to me seems to be a separate, unique NAV System Gripe.
This is not to say the other Gripes -
Trouble with using Handsfree options, the unit always comes on with radio or CD and if you turn the radio off the whole system doesn't function except as a clock (Actually you are turning the entire system off – not just the radio), having to hit the liability waiver every time you turn on the NAV system, the screen is to small, I don’t like the voice (mute it) – are problems or annoyances, but are totally unrelated to this one issue.
One other - the inaccuracy of the maps themselves or the sometime insane route the system suggest or putting all the data on the 11 disk to One DVD. The discrepancies related to Maps, Routes and Points of Interest are not a defect of the basic NAV system – but of the data supplied by
NAVTEQ, You'll find NAVTEQ data onboard most in-vehicle navigation systems sold in North America and Europe, they were the ones selected by Ford for their systems information. These problems need to be reported to
NAVTEQ – don’t be in a hurry for a fix – seems they make major updates to the data base on the disk every one to two years.
All other NAV-Radio-System Functions that are integrated into the unit need to be taken up with Ford. They outsource the units control software to another company and changes are sometimes slow because of the chain of command and the bureaucracy. The number to reach for these problems is 1.800.392.3673.
Following are ‘Replies’ posted on the ‘NAV system Gripes’ Thread, that were related to the subject.
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Originally Posted by cdbrow1
Why does Ford and the liablity police require the following two things -
That the car be at a dead stop to use the NAV system (enter data etc.). The car can detect when my passenger seat is occupied so why can't it just accept inputs from the passenger when the car is in motion. I hate having to stop just to find out where I need to go.
Second why do I have to hit the liability waiver every time I turn on the NAV system. The accept button is always a pain in the butt to find and hit while driving, which is sort of in conflict with item #1 above.
Chris Brown
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Originally Posted by stevewa
This appears to be common to all built-in navigation systems. I strongly suspect there is legislation in place to cover this.
Steve
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Originally Posted by VietVet'67
To start off let me say I am and have been happy with the operation and usefulness of my NAV unit except for -
and I know this is an on going grip and nothing new, but it is one of my pet peeves. It is the inability of being able to access the ‘points of interest’ while the vehicle is in motion. Heck you can do almost everything but cook a pizza with it while doing 70 in heavy traffic. I know a lot of what we can do with the info screen – check the FE, how the system is functioning etc –has nothing with the NAV section of the unit. I have been in contact with NAVTEQ (supplier of the data disk) and they say it is a ‘safety issue’. If it is a matter of having to take your eyes off the road then we shouldn’t be able to (beside all the other stuff) zoom in and out of the map screen, change from map to NAV, delete or detour your route . . .
Generally the things I would like to have access to are things like – where is the next rest stop or nearest gas station, find a Hospital in an emergency etc. All of this is already there and no input is required – just a selection of what and which one you want. I sure wouldn’t want to have to pull over here in the Atlanta area on our GA 400 (everyone thinks that is the speed limit) to have to find the nearest hospital or other emergency location – I WOULD need them if I did pull over. I would say if you were in an emergency the safety issue would be how QUICKLY I could locate something.
There is no way of foreseeing what you might need along a trip. Did anyone find out if it is say Federal Reg on installed units or has anyone found a work around on this one?
Thanks - Phillip
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Originally Posted by GaryG
Over on the yahoo site about a month or so ago, I read a blog on how to bypass the Nav Systems ability to know you’re moving. It was a simple switch installed to make this possible. I think GPS1Man may know how this is done. Ask him
GaryG
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Originally Posted by stevewa
The short answer:
Yes you can install a switch to defeat this function by fooling the navigation into thinking you are not moving.
Steve.
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Originally Posted by VietVet'67
Thanks Steve & Rich - The only problem I see with a switch to fool the NAV into thinking you are not moving is that it would probably negate any distance data that would be sent to the FEH system for computing FE & DTE.
Gary –Found this message already posted on the Yahoo forum where you had posted a message “gpsman1 - I already hacked the GPS system! - John.”
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Originally Posted by VietVet'67
After sending an email questioning NAVTEQ (The supplier of the NAV Map data disk) about why I could not access 'Points of Interest' while the vehicle was in motion I asked – ‘was it there decision of safety or was their a law etc prohibiting this. Here is there reply.
Subject: Points of interest
Phillip,
Thank you for contacting NAVTEQ.
The driver must not attempt to operate any detailed operation of the navigation system while the vehicle is in motion. Give full attention to driving and to the road. Pull off the road and park in a safe place before performing detailed operations. This is a safety feature of the navigation system itself. Please contact Ford at 800-392-3673 to suggest enhancements to their system.
Phillip
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