agreed. hypermileage drivers shouldn't be compared to 'normal' drivers regardless of powertrain.

i also agree to your seconds sentence to a point, but have any HiHY drivers been able to meet EPA stated 31/29 or whatever is is? now i don't 'hypermile' so to speak, but the best tank of gas i've seen was 25 mpg. during this tank i made a concerted effort to coast, use cc, and drive like a grandma in general. i think you'll agree that EPA numbers are overstated more for hybrids than they are for gas engines, particularly for city.