True, Toyota dealer guys are NOTORIOUS for being sneaky. One area is the interest rate. I think if you got good credit you should get 6.9 or less, yet they were offering us 7.something initially. We looked at our bank and when the Toyota guys found out we had approval at 6, they magically found us financing at 5.95. So, as always, you have to MAKE them come down on everything. YOU MUST have another dealer you can mention that goes under MSRP. You must have your own loan option to get the interest rate lower. During the financing stage of things you can just say no to any of those other options they try to sell. The only thing we got was the service package. This IS a special car and you save a little money if you pay it that way instead of the Dealer charges everytime you take it in for regular maintenances(yes, even with the interest figured). Of course, if you feel comfortable with your regular street corner mechanic and his hybrid certification, you don't need this option.

JV