But how much carbon was used to get that E85? How much water was used to grow the corn? Was the crop fertilized using carbon-neutral products? Many energy inputs/sources seem to be missing in the ethanol-good argument. As-is the hydrogen boondoggle.

What about using renewable solar/wind etc. to just charge a battery to propel a car? Battery tech is way better than even last week! So is EV range and performance. And the infrastructure is there already. What's better, "plugging-in" your car to a gas station pump or conveinently plugging your car in at home?

'04 Seaside Pearl #7. Fumoto oil drain, mudflaps, rear bumper scuff protector & rear warn system, compass mirror, EV mode button, 8" subwoofer in right rear cubby & 6" subs under seats, power lumbar in the front seats, Coastaletech hitch w/ Aspen bike/snowboard rack. iPod2car, 2 amps, Alpine component speakers, and DVD video, solid 47 MPG @ 70000 miles.