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Originally Posted by ken1784
However, the EPA mileage shows the city mileage is better than highway's among the HSD(THS) vehicles.
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EPA also "shows" the Accord Hybrid losing 4 mpg by getting a sunroof, but that's not true at all -- it's just a sign of the inaccuracy of EPA testing.
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Above 42 miles per hour, the ICE on the HDS(THS) vehicle is always spinning and almost no advantage from the conventional vehicle including Honda hybrids.
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I have driven Priuses, Civic Hybrids (2005 & 2006), the Accord Hybrid, and the Camry Hybrid. Believe me, HSD gets better highway mileage than IMA with all else being [more or less] equal. Perhaps you should drive the vehicles you talk about, but I bet you haven't driven the Hondas.
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I would like to say to all HSD(THS) divers that please try to learn how to drive your vehicle in city(below 42 miles per hour).
You drive your car, you are not driven by your car.
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City driving is not "any speed below 42 miles per hour". I have achieved well over 40 mpg many times, but only on the rare occasion that I can take a long commute where there's very little traffic. When there is traffic, 35-37 mpg is the absolute best I can do, and I do better on the highway. That's because traffic often stops unexpectedly, so I can't always coast, and I'm certainly not the kind of person to make traffic much worse by holding it up to accelerate in EV mode. That kind of practice pisses everyone off, including me. The Prius accelerates fairly acceptably with electric power alone, but the Camry usually does not (the threshold when the engine comes on seems to vary).
Of course, driving in Japan may be different?