Martin, I am quite impressed at your deep and quite evidently- insightful knowledge concerning GM.

But, could it be that what happened during the 70's, 80's and 90's is a trend that at least GM will not be able to alter? Let's see, I remember executives for the big three including many GM PR people publicly stating that they "were turning a corner" and very soon matching the Japanese in quality and reliability.

If I vaguely recall, the Japanese (Honda & Toyota at least) made their presence known in the small car arena in the 70's and very soon percolated relentelessly to the top to become class benchmark products in many areas (with undisputible technical merit - Imight add). More recently as an example, Honda managed to raise a few eyebrows with their Ridgeline truck (not a hard-core truck but still one heck of an achivement for a first try) - Motor Trend award as well as a few others.

Now my question is this, what can possibly validate your statements (bolded above) that can help change our perception that a tide change in GM's favor will ever take place?

Also, could you tell me when did GM make the best cars in the world? What are they and when were they produced? How can GM even convince the average folk that it is an attainable goal when even Hyundai (quality bottom-feeder of the 80's and 90's) easily appears to eclipse GM in their speedy commitment to improve quality and reliability?

Please convenice me that car hybrid technology and GM are not mutuallly exclusive. No, Really: When can I buy a GM hybrid sedan that exceeds Toyota and Honda in engineering prowess, quality and fuel economy?


Regards;

MS