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Old 06-06-2006, 09:42 AM
Mardikes Mardikes is offline
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Default Re: Comparing Prius mileage with Corolla

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Originally Posted by McSwell
> What state do you live in? In Oregon there
> is also a $1500 credit. Colorado is very generous
> with a credit of $3,285.

For worse or for better, I live in Maryland. I don't think the state does me any favors (they don't even pay for Driver's Ed in the public schools).

> You maintenance with a Prius will be much lower. Probably in excess
> of $3000 in savings over the life of the vehicle, if not more. Brake
> shoes don't wear out. The engine is never stressed, lots of reasons.

Yes, but what about the batteries? That's an unknown at this point, isn't it? Even if there are some high mileage Priuses out there, couldn't the batteries wear out with time? I'm not trying to be disagreeable, I'm just trying to be realistic before I plunk down twenty plus grand.

I'm also wondering what improvements in this relatively new technology will happen in the next few years. In 1984, I bought a PC for over $2000. Last year, I bought a PC that was what--several hundred times faster? with nearly 100 times as much RAM memory and 100,000 times as much disk space, for about 20% of the cost. To be sure, I've done a lot of things with that PC and with all the PCs I've owned since, so I don't regret the purchase (much). But if cars were to improve that quickly (they won't, so this is a hypothetical), then maybe I should hang on to my Apple I, err, ancient Corolla for a few more years until the Prius II, or some other new and improved hybrid comes out. Not forever, obviously, I don't think I can get another 100k miles out of my Corolla, but long enough for s.t. even better and/ or cheaper than today's Prius to come out.

> In comparing vehicles for MPG, I just use the differential between
> the EPA numbers. Why? Because if you can nurse great milage out of
> a Corolla, you will do the same with a Prius.

That was my original question: can I really do better than the average Prius mileage? Or are all you guys getting 48 mpg out of your Priuses the same kind of driver I am, so you'd be nursing 38 mpg out of a Corolla stick shift too?

Again, I thank you for taking the time to reply!
The battery concern is not really warranted. The Prius batteries have done quite well and there have been many 200,000+ milage Prius with no battery problems. Even so, I have heard that individual cells of the battery could be replaced rather than the whole battery.

The cost and technology structure of computers will never be the same with cars. Too many fixed asset issues that are unique to cars. The computers on board the Prius are somewhat like the computer industry in that improvements can be made to the car past production by fixes in the software. In addition, repairs to the computer hardware can be quite cheaply made compared to fixes to the standard car infrustructure.

I have seen lots of people who do better than average with the Prius.

Move quick and get the tax credit. With that the economics of the Prius is a no brainer.

George
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