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07-10-2006, 04:06 AM
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Location: Suburban NJ
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hy
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Originally Posted by foo monkey
The low fuel warning goes off well into into the 10% mark. If you fill up as soon as you get down to one block, you'll never see it.
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Judging from my trip down to zero bars----The amount of fuel in the bladder whent the low Fuel warning comes on is approximatley 50% of the quantity when you only had 1 bar. So it's at the "1/2 bar stage"
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07-10-2006, 05:50 AM
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Engineering first
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Real Name: Bob
Location: Huntsville, AL
Hybrids: Prius Classic 03
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hy
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Originally Posted by Meadowlands
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Also not that the actual light that goes off that is the scaries is "WARNING BATTERY DISCHARGE" That is the one that made me figure out what was going on but is also the one that would have someone call for a tow.
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I think you meant:
"Note that the intimidating "WARNING BATTERY DISCHARGE" light will come on." I'll add it to the FAQ with a caution to monitor the battery charge and avoid fully draining the battery, which will require a tow to the dealer.
Thanks,
Bob Wilson
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07-11-2006, 01:28 PM
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Real Name: Chris Todd
Location: Baltimore, MD
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hybrid
I've heard that the Japanese version of the Prius has a rotary switch in which the user can toggle between "normal" [hybrid] and "Electric Only". Do you figure that the American version was "dumbed down" because Toyota thinks that Americans would run the batteries down too low too often?
I've got a HCH. I've always wondered if the IMA could pull the car for a while if I ran out of gas while the car was in motion. I know that it couldn't launch the vehicle, of course, since it's a mild hybrid. But... If the car was still rolling, could the IMA pull me to a gas station? Fortunately, I've never had to find out!
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07-11-2006, 01:57 PM
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Engineering first
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Real Name: Bob
Location: Huntsville, AL
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hy
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Originally Posted by AshenGrey
I've heard that the Japanese version of the Prius has a rotary switch in which the user can toggle between "normal" [hybrid] and "Electric Only". Do you figure that the American version was "dumbed down" because Toyota thinks that Americans would run the batteries down too low too often?
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It turns out to be a pin on the hybrid vehicle ECU, the main control unit that also drives the inverters. There is a kit you can buy from Coastal Electronics that gives you the "EV" mode switch.
The European Prius also get rear wheel disk brakes.
As for why, I don't have a clue.
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Originally Posted by AshenGrey
I've got a HCH. I've always wondered if the IMA could pull the car for a while if I ran out of gas while the car was in motion. I know that it couldn't launch the vehicle, of course, since it's a mild hybrid. But... If the car was still rolling, could the IMA pull me to a gas station? Fortunately, I've never had to find out!
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I hope you don't have to find out but it is a nice feature. I haven't had to test it with my NHW11 and with my conservative driving, not likly. But if I had to, I'd probably just put my 03 Prius in reverse and drive backwards. That appears to be a built-in but not commonly used EV mode in the NHW11, Prius I.
In the morning, I put my Prius in reverse and once I get up to 3-4 mph, it shuts down the ICE. My 50 yard driveway lets me cruise backwards on to the street, totally EV mode. This morning, when I came to a stop and put it back in drive, I had to hit the accellerator before the car restarted the ICE. Weird but true.
Bob Wilson
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07-11-2006, 04:42 PM
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Location: Suburban NJ
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hy
You are correct in translating my hastily typed proclamation. How embarrassing for me, but thanks for double checking what I was trying to say.
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Originally Posted by bwilson4web
I think you meant:
"Note that the intimidating "WARNING BATTERY DISCHARGE" light will come on." I'll add it to the FAQ with a caution to monitor the battery charge and avoid fully draining the battery, which will require a tow to the dealer.
Thanks,
Bob Wilson
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08-14-2006, 06:50 AM
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Real Name: Bruce
Location: Vermont
Hybrids: '04 Driftwood Prius '06 Barcelona Red Prius
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hy
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Originally Posted by Meadowlands
Note: I was able to drive at 55 MPH to the gas station (I was on a highway) just on electric. My recomendation would be "don't brake" to reduce speed, except for the ICE I had full control over everything else in the car.
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You made 3 miles at 55 MPH on electric only? Was it a steep enough hill that you could glide a lot? On a flat at 25 MPH I can get over 1 mile without getting down to 2 bars (from 6) but I don't think I could get close to 3 miles and there is a lot less energy needed to go 25 than 55.
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08-16-2006, 06:41 PM
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hybrid
Does anyone know what the various color codes mean for the Prius hybrid battery. I believe yellow might be a fully charged battery, and purple with 2 bars is possibily the lowest charge, but there is also blue and green with up to 6 bars ( I think??).
Also what is the best method to restore your hybrid battery to a full charge after it has discharged down to "purple with 2 bars remaining"?
The dealer told me to drive it for a week with the transaxle in "B" instead of "D" ...But, so far this has not helped.
(I have a 06 Prius with apx. 1300 miles) My MPG so far has been an average of 42.5 MPG.) Thank You, don
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08-17-2006, 04:59 AM
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Automania Enthusiast
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Location: Upstate NY
Hybrids: 05 Prius, 06 Highlander Limited AWD
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hybrid
I'm struggling here with why anyone would
- Want to run any vehicle out of gas especially a hybrid when your told it can cause problems to the main battery.
- Risk injury on the highway, to yourself and others, if you couldn't get off the road
- etc. etc..
All to say I got XXX miles out of that tank of gas...
One word does come to mind, but I'll keep it to myself...
2005 Prius - White, Gray Interior, Option Package 6, Mud Flaps & Auto Door locks from Coastal
2006 Highlander Hybrid - Limited, White, Tan Interior, Nav, 4WD, Trailer Hitch
NOTE: On both the Prius and HH batteries are included with your purchase !
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08-17-2006, 08:08 AM
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Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hybrid
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Originally Posted by donm
Does anyone know what the various color codes mean for the Prius hybrid battery...
Also what is the best method to restore your hybrid battery to a full charge...
The dealer told me to drive it for a week with the transaxle in "B"...
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Excellent explanation of the battery cartoon for 2004 and later Prius:
http://www.privatenrg.com/#Full_SOC
Prius battery management is under computer control unless you run out of fuel. There is no need to 'restore' the battery, though for reasons of curiousity it can be force-charged by pressing both the accelerator and brake pedal, and not moving while in 'D'. As a general rule using B instead of D will have no effect on battery SOC. B is for driving down long hills, after regenerative braking has already filled the battery.
DAS
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08-17-2006, 08:19 AM
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Don't Taunt Pepito
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Real Name: Mike
Location: The Beautiful NJ Shore
Hybrids: 2006 Black Prius
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Re: Ran out of gas, drove 3 miles to gas station &other stories you can't do w/o a hy
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Originally Posted by donm
Does anyone know what the various color codes mean for the Prius hybrid battery. I believe yellow might be a fully charged battery, and purple with 2 bars is possibily the lowest charge, but there is also blue and green with up to 6 bars ( I think??).
Also what is the best method to restore your hybrid battery to a full charge after it has discharged down to "purple with 2 bars remaining"?
The dealer told me to drive it for a week with the transaxle in "B" instead of "D" ...But, so far this has not helped.
(I have a 06 Prius with apx. 1300 miles) My MPG so far has been an average of 42.5 MPG.) Thank You, don
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Don't worry about the hybrid battery being fully charged or not. The car tries to manage it to keep it in the blue (usually around 5 or 6 bars). The colors are just an indication of it's basic state of charge. When it's pink/purple, the Prius will start recharging it to get it back to around 5 bars. When it's green, it won't charge much and will discharge quicker to get back into the blue.
Here's a thread on PriusChat that gives more info on the battery charge & how the Prius handles it: http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=23390
I wouldn't keep the transaxle in "B", either. More knowledgeable people than me have written about it here: http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=23097
(that's what my car tells me, so it must be true)
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