I caught your article this morning, and have to say that this particular driver not only got fleeced by his dealer, he's also way off on what his car is capable of. I paid just over sticker after TTL for mine a little over a year ago, and like many other people, consistently *beat* the EPA estimates. I'd like to invite you over to a pair of enthusiast websites, www.greenhybrid.com and www.cleanmpg.com, where you'll find people trading tips, techniques, stories, and even the occasional kind-hearted challenge. We also have databases actively maintained by those same people, tracking mileage both by make/model, and by car (mine is http://www.greenhybrid.com/compare/m...car/2383.html). There is a lot of misinformation being spread about hybrids, typically a result of people like Mr. True attempting to drive hybrids like they're somehow a magical mileage machine, so it's important that articles like yours point out that for every tale of misery, there's someone else making the EPA look foolish.
Good letter Chris - be careful as you or Kenny might be called as expert witnesses for the Defense!
I wouldn't mind having Honda fly me out to Cali for a couple of days, but I'll pass on going to Michigan. Of course, it'd be a lot easier (and cheaper) for them just to request database dumps from GH and CMPG. I'm not sure kenny and I would even count as "expert" witnesses, either... in order to be considered an expert in the eyes of the court, you usually need licensure or certification of some sort. For this, that would probably mean a PE (Professional Engineer), or EI (Engineering Intern) at the very least.
Hybrids: '06 Civic Hybrid Magnetic Pearl w/Navi (as of July 1, 2006)
Re: HCH owner sues Honda over mileage claims
"The lawsuit claims American Honda Motor Co. has misled consumers in its advertisements and on its Web site. The suit notes that while the Environmental Protection Agency and automobile window stickers say "mileage will vary," some Honda advertisements read "mileage mayvary." That implies that it's possible to get the mileage advertised, said William H. Anderson, a Washington, D.C., attorney for True."
I got better than the EPA estimate on my way to work today (54), and again on my way back home tonight (52)!
It's SUCH a stupid, flimsy argument that it may actually win
It may just be yet another example of people that have NO IDEA what MPG they were getting before (compared to the vehicle's EPA estimate), but now that they're in a hybrid - by God it better hit the numbers, no matter what the driving parameters are.
STOP terrorism - Drive a HYBRID
350 miles a week ------------ 2006 HCH II, Magnetic Pearl, w/NAVI (born on May 25, 2006)
350 miles a month ---------- 2003 Mazda Tribute ES-V6
350 miles a year (for now) - 1986 Mercedes 560SL