Negative Camber Problem; What You Need To Do To Get The Upper Control Arms Replaced - Page 15 - GreenHybrid

frobey · #**141** (**permalink**) 11-09-2008, 06:08 AM

So, my girlfriend has an 06 HCH that after a very long and painful process finally got her rear control arms and 4 tires replaced by Honda (when she initially reported the tire cupping to the dealer she was told that it was because her alignment was out, they checked and it wasn't, that she hadn't rotated the tires enough, etc.)

So she's been rotating the tires at 6k like they said...yesterday I took them to be rotated again after another 6k and she mentioned that the tires were "roaring" again....the technician's that rotated the tires put on the invoice that all four tires were "cupping" on the inside with the worst being now on the driver's side front...when driving it home I could clearly hear how loud they are.

It appears that replacing the rear control arms hasn't cured the problem....anyone else having any issues since they had their control arms replaced?

Guess we're back to the dealer to start all over....and I was sure looking forward to purchasing the new Insight or Fit Hybrid when they came out...

Thanks,

Frank

gumby · #**142** (**permalink**) 11-09-2008, 04:26 PM

Once the tires are cupped, they're cupped.
Fixing the alignment and control arms will not change that fact. Either live with the noise as they "re-wear" back towards even-wear again, or replace 'em. I replaced mine. Quiet-city.

MikeT · #**143** (**permalink**) 11-09-2008, 07:52 PM

Our office's staff HCH II has loud roaring from the rear and at the car's first service at 10,000 km, I told the fellow taking the car in to mention the Service Bulletin and the noise.

We got the car back at the end of the day and the service advisor at Discovery Honda in Duncan British Columbia said:

Quote:

Your car has some cupping on the rear tires and you should get an alignment done.

Gee thanks dude, we had no f'n idea. Unfortunately it was not me picking the car up, otherwise the fur would have been flying.

So when it goes in for the second service, this Service Bulletin and alignment will be something they will be explicitly invited to do.

The myth of the perfect Japanese car has been well and truly busted. Oh and it averages 5.63 L/100 km, which is OK, but fully 25% more fuel consumed than the Transport Canada combined rating. But on the Spritmonitor.de website, this is par for the car.

frobey · #**144** (**permalink**) 11-09-2008, 08:49 PM

Sorry Steve,

I guess I wasn't clear in my message...she had the control arms replaced, front end aligned AND 4 new tires put on at the same time...around 12k miles ago. The tires were rotated twice in that time period so all of them have some cupping on them...

Since they seem to be cupping again it appears that maybe replacing the control arms didn't fix the problem....that's why I was posting here wondering if anyone else that had this TSB done (new control arms, alignment, maybe replace tires) is having any more cupping issues...

Thanks,

gumby · #**145** (**permalink**) 11-12-2008, 12:04 AM

Frobey,
no it was I that didn't read your message right...

Anyway, I wonder did they possibly NOT realign the car (or not properly) after replacing the rear control arms? I've not heard of continuing problems AFTER getting the rear control arms replaced.
Mine have been done now for a few thousand miles, so it's too soon to know for sure - but my car is quiet now, and I see no signs of cupping on the new Michelins I put on right after my replacement arms.

eco.conduite.free.fr · #**146** (**permalink**) 11-16-2008, 04:05 AM

Thanks for this information, I have a look on my European Civic...