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Old 04-19-2006, 07:15 PM
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Arrow Re: Sticky: READ THE *** MPG *** RESULTS on HCH II here on Tiger's Easter Trip to Ky.

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I can't find the original story, on that page all I can find is replies. Why not post it here - since you posted news about it here anyway, just post the whole story.

Anyway, sounds like you experienced a true miracle, I hope you can keep them up. I have had miraculous tanks too, but I have not found them to be sustainable.
zimbop;

I'll give it a try if it will let me Copy & Paste it here:


Mr. Honaker should have said, that this was to see what the HCH II would do for FE without any {Assistance-At-All} from the {Driver}. Test was to see how the Hybrid does on it's (Own) without any (Additional-Help). If the HCH II would get "Above" the EPA Rating with {No-Help}, then can you just Imagine what the HCH II could get with all the (Hypermiling Technique's) that xcel and others here at www.CleanMPG.com do. Blushing, Sorry I did not make this alot "Clearer".

This is a Scanned copy of the Gas Receipt for the, 4.069 Gallons of Gas:
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Picture One is of the Fuel Gauge Reading before I refilled Gas-Tank:
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It looked like to me that there was 3-Squares down from Full.
As you can see, one could certainly drive a, Very-Very Long Way
based on the Amount of Fuel (Used) and the Amount of Fuel (Left)
in Tank.

Picture Two is of the, Odometer Reading of the, Miles-Driven
and the MPG that the Computer Figured:
I also took the time to, Calculate the, Exact MPG Based on the Gallons
to Refill the Tank. See: Below
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The actual MPG figure is: 66.7 MPG

This is Based on the Amount of Gallons (4.069) to Refill the Tank.
The Miles Driven: 271.4
That gives us the above MPG Figure of: 66.7 MPG

As many of us already know. The on board computer is somewhere between 2-3 mpg short of the actual mpg that the Hybrid gets.

I think what is really interesting about this example here is that it was done in the following manner. I set the
(Cruise Control) on 55 MPH and "Never" did anything else to achieve higher MPG. Not (Anything) at all. The car did it all from "Start to Finish".
The only exception to this, is I did not turn on the A/C System. It was not Hot so I did not use it. I set the temperature where I wanted it and the car took care of the rest. The fan speed varied as it warmed up but it was never uncomfortable.
I did nothing else but sit back and listen to the X/M Satellite Radio. One more thing.
I Never-Stopped, to take a break or the usual Bathroom thing. I drank nothing and did not eat until I got to my destination in Ky. I say this only to be Honest and not Mislead anyone.
The HCH II far exceeds the EPA estimate on Hwy. Mileage. I personally wanted to see for myself what the Hybrid could do on it's own and I have to tell you that this car will get it done and you as the Pilot have to do nothing but point it in the right direction. In my case I told the Navagation the Address and from there on the car took care of everything.

Remember that the MPG of 66.7 was done with No-Assistance from the Driver.
Just try to imagine what this HCH II could do with all the (Hypermiling-Technique's) that the Members here like, Xcel (Wayne), Tbaleno,(Tom), Krousdb, Ericbecky and the other members here know how to do. If I am not, just way off, it looks like to me that the HCH II is in the, Ball-Park of the Insight. Don't PANIC Insight owners I am just pointing out that for this car to be a sedan and not a Light-Weight it is really quite impressive. (IMHO) of Course.

Yes, I realize the Insight is still, The-King.

Note* For those reading this: Starting-Mileage on this Hybrid was, 584-Miles an still has the Break-In Oil in the Engine. No Mobil 1 0-20 Synthetic; (YET).This was done from a starting point in Franklin, Tn. to the small town of Sadieville, Ky. The trip from my house to Ky. is some Flat Areas. But mainly it is driving Up-Hill from Tn. Also you are climbing Up-Hills and then the car is holding the set speed of 55 MPH so you do not get the Benefit of Coasting with the ICE-OFF. I say this to let everyone know that where I live and traveled to is not the best for increased FE. Way to many hills being climbed and None of the Benefite of the Hypermiling Technique's that would let the car gain back those lost MPG while ICE is Working-Overtime to Climb those hills one after another. If I chose to get back the Lost MPG in FE from Climbing those Hills, I think the FE would be in the (70's). The reason I say this is because in the beginning of the trip I was on more Flat-Ground and the computer had a read out of (72-73 MPG) and don't forget that the Computer is short by "2-3 MPG". The MPG for the 1st 116 Miles had a reading of (72-73 MPG) and now add to that The (Lost 2-3 MPG) and you would be somewhere in the Ball Park of, (74-76 MPG). I am adding these comments for those that live in the States & or Countries that are Flatter in Nature than where I live and was driving to in my trip. Keep in mind once again that I did not choose to {Help} out the Hybrid's FE by doing at the (Bare Minimum the FAS) {Forced Auto-Stop). So I did not recover Lost MPG on the Climbing of the Many-Many Hills with the Gaining of that back on the Down-Side of the Hills with using the (FAS Technique). For those living and driving in the much "Flatter Areas" your FE would be more I think in the
(74-76 MPG Range at a Speed of 55 MPH).

Good-Luck all on your FE, it's certainly there if (You-Want-It).


For the Un-Belivers that these {Hybrids-Do-Not-Perform} I say, "HUM-BUG" on Them.

Last edited by tigerhonaker : Yesterday at 08:57 PM. Reason: Used Scanner on High Resolution for Gas Receipt:

That was the {End} of the Thread Above:

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Old 04-19-2006, 07:28 PM
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Congratulations! On one way trips I have found wind profoundly affects mileage. i.e. cruse control 55 mph trip recently: southerly winds, 60 mpg St. Louis to Chicago, 44 on the way back, same technique. Flat land, few stops.
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Old 04-21-2006, 10:37 PM
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Congratulations! On one way trips I have found wind profoundly affects mileage. i.e. cruse control 55 mph trip recently: southerly winds, 60 mpg St. Louis to Chicago, 44 on the way back, same technique. Flat land, few stops.
Hi jaykay;

You are right the Head-Winds do effect your FE with the HCH II. I think the reason is it has a small ICE and it takes alot more out of it when the Head-Wind is Strong.

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