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05-05-2005, 11:32 AM
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Location: Upstate NY
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Additional Taxes on Hybrids
Well if the government (State & Federal) isn't talking out of both sides of ther mouths.....
While I haven't heard more on this several friends have told us they have heard/seen a story that there is talk about adding a tax to Hybrid owners. This is because, you'll love this, because we do NOT use enough gas that the tax revenues on fuel sales will go down. The news story said if more people go to Hybrids this is what was being considered to keep the fuel tax revenues from diminishing.
IDIOTS!!!!!
2005 Prius - White, Gray Interior, Option Package 6, Mud Flaps & Auto Door locks from Coastal
2006 Highlander Hybrid - Limited, White, Tan Interior, Nav, 4WD, Trailer Hitch
NOTE: On both the Prius and HH batteries are included with your purchase !
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05-05-2005, 12:26 PM
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
We Know.
If it does happen, I'm going to refuse to pay. Why should I pay more for a 50mpg Civic Hybrid than I pay for a 50mpg Beetle? It's discriminatory.
troy
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05-05-2005, 12:31 PM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
I've heard about this possibility, but find it unlikely to happen. Decreasing our dependence on oil will have major positive effects on the economy. In fact, right now experts claim the economy has started to get bogged down, the result of high oil prices.
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05-05-2005, 04:39 PM
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Pretty Darn Active Enthusiast
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Location: Eastern Washington State
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
If you follow various stock and fund indexes you can see that they are responding to higher energy costs. That equals a slowing economy. If there is another slowdown in the economy, or a recession, again, guess what, there isn't going to be any extra money out there (not that there is right now) for government to collect in the form of taxes.
Government entities need to react with economic pressures just as private industry does. When the economy contracts, governments contract. However on the upswing, there is no need for government to expand. My observation of our recent recession is that the government entities did not contract as they needed and as such they are still too large, bloated and inefficient to exist in the economy even as it stands right now.
It has been said:
Hybrid drivers come in 3 flavors, greenie, techie and cheapie. Pick any 2.
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06-22-2005, 06:32 AM
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
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Originally Posted by ElectricTroy
If it does happen, I'm going to refuse to pay. Why should I pay more for a 50mpg Civic Hybrid than I pay for a 50mpg Beetle? It's discriminatory.
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Has this idea of charging higher tax for Hybrids, died out?
troy
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06-22-2005, 06:51 AM
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Cng Attitudes-Not Physics
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Real Name: Chuck
Location: Lewisville (Dallas), Texas
Hybrids: 2000 Honda Enzyte 5-speed
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
Any politician considering additional taxes for hybrids right now is going to be voted out - they will propose exemptions instead.
Noticed a Prius parked in Colorado this weekend with a sticker that exempts it from emissions tests. 
61.5mpg lifetime - 82mpg in recent months
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"fanatic" is what the lazy call the dedicated
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06-22-2005, 09:17 AM
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Real Name: Steve
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Hybrids: 2004 Civic CVT Hybrid
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
I've also heard of taxation by the mile which is crazy, but an added hybrid tax is more nuts as the US economy continues to grow at a good clip of 4.4%GDP and they are trying to promote these vehicles (Tax credits)
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06-22-2005, 09:24 AM
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GreenHybrid Founder
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Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
I've always been extremely doubting of any of those claims. It just doesn't seem probable that the government would make such a stupid move. What would their motivation be, anyway? Sure, they're politicians, but I doubt they're "out to get us." Foreign oil dependence is their problem, too.
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06-22-2005, 09:33 AM
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
I believe Oregon has a pilot ongoing. Makes sense sort of. Oregon is a pretty liberal, forward thinking state overall (at least in the cities where the majority of the population is), and it would not be surprising if hybrid uptake is quicker and more pervasive there. States that rely on gasonline tax for significant revenue are looking at having that revenue cut by 30 - 60% on each driver that switches.
They are not anti-hybrid. They are anti-lost tax revenue. In five years, they may very well have to do something, if it is not this. I'd say just increase the gasoline tax further, but that is probably viewed as anti-business or something.
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Highway/City/Husband/Wife MPG: 56.5, as of 12/2005, 26K miles
Jac Nasser, Ford President: "We are planning to launch a hybrid version of
this car [P2000] within this year [1998]. We will also make FCEV available in
2004."
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06-22-2005, 02:25 PM
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Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
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Real Name: Erick
Location: Coquitlam, B.C.
Hybrids: 2001 Prius
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Re: Additional Taxes on Hybrids
I vote for an increase in the gasoline tax rate.
This will both encourage people to think higher efficiency, and create greater revenues from the sales of gasoline, from both hybrid and conventional vehicles. The price of gas (especially in the US and Canada) is far too low, it's really not pushing people to think about FE at all. Putting some sort of head tax on Hybrids is political suicide, I hope they realize this.
Something else to consider would be a tax in proportion to the mileage of the vehicle, less tax if your vehicle gets better mileage. If they do implement the extra tax for hybrid vehicles, then it's pretty obvious that they want NOTHING to do with improving our environment, and are encouraging it's destruction. But that would be in line with the current administration's agenda, in general.
Last edited by Schwa : 06-22-2005 at 06:15 PM.
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