i had gotten the impression that the reason current larger hybrids weren't getting 30+ miles to the gallon was because Toyota and others are building them from a 'more power' standpoint rather than a 'less gas' view. We are currently renting a cargo van on a regular basis, and always get vehicles with 15ish mpg. I keep crossing my fingers that when Honda does a large vehicle, they do it with a 'less fuel' kind of vision. Hopefully the huge demand for gas-lite vehicles will emphasize how much people really do like the idea of better milage.