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Old 02-02-2006, 09:28 AM
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Default The Costs to Produce Gasoline, Ethanol, Hydrogen...

Wikipedia is a good resource.

The arguements against alternative fuels such as hydrogen and ethanol is that more energy would be required to make the fuel than would be delivered once in the gas tank. According to wikipedia, that's the case with gasoline.

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....this reflects a lack of understanding of the motor fuel industry; production of gasoline also requires more energy input than the fuel itself provides, but the trade-off is worthwhile because it converts less portable forms of energy (electricity for pumps, burning off crude oil for heat at refineries, etc.) into a high-value (portable, easily used) form of energy. As of 2005, ethanol production has actually become much more energy-efficient than gasoline production, with energy inputs as low as 70% of the energy value of the ethanol produced.
Wikipedia acknowledge's there is a dispute on whether or not it takes more energy to produce ethanol than it produces - it's debated here > talk page.

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Old 02-02-2006, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: The Costs to Produce Gasoline, Ethanol, Hydrogen...

I don't know the energy balance of ethanol, but hydrogen is understandable. Since anyone can take a solar panel and electrolyze water, hydrogen can be obtained cleanly. It's just up to the producer/end user to use a more expensive process than cracking hydrocarbons.

The cheapest way to get H2 is steam reformation. Combine natural gas with steam at 1000C(?) and you get hydrogen gas, CO, CO2, and some water.

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