If only we had started using them in the 70’s



However my crystal ball tells me it is too little too late. Now it has turned into a political tool. Even our governor whom I had hoped would not cave into political pressure has supported this go nowhere initiative. California's Finstein is once again shooting from the hip supporting Hybrids in the HOV lane. It seems she never thinks anything through except the special interest that will support her in the future.
Here is why I feel that way.

1. with $3 gal fuel prices, who needs extra incentive to but a car that promises 55mpg
2. It has created a two class commuter system. The Rich with new cars get to use the HOV, the poor do not. Some kind of liberal society we turned out to be, I'm embarrassed to be Californian.
3.Within Two years the HOV will be Jammed with Hybrids. This is already happening in Washing D.C. Those that once used two riders will no longer have the incentive to do so. They will return to single occupancy vehicles, net result, more cares on the Highway. That is the thinking ahead part I was talking about earlier.
If studies were done on amount of Fuel used per Highway mile, it will likely show the value increases. More cars going slower are burning fuel longer polluting more and depleting the resources, the resource which soon will be at the top of the list is none other than a stable earth environment.



I will add that I ride to work. My BMW gets 50mpg. California has retained the lane sharing laws for motorcycles, before you condemn the practice; consider that I’m one less vehicle in your way. But that is a different thread.



I thank Hybrid drivers for driving safely and with care of the accelerator. So many people could really stick it to the oil company’s even without a hybrid just by accelerating slower and using the 65mph limit.

Hi Geomoto:

___Receiving 50 mpg in your BMW is only one part of the equation. Do you know your BMW is a pollution nightmare by comparison to even a LEV based Insight when running HS fuel? Just another reason Californian’s are doing the right thing in some respects with hybrid incentives although letting HCH-I’s, II’s, and Prius II’s in the HOV lanes to do 70 + mph at 40 - 45 mpg sure doesn’t make sense when you have an H2 stuck in the traffic jam 2 lanes to the right receiving 2 or 3 instead of 9 if they were in the HOV lane instead?

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

Welcome!

I am a bit skeptical about the fuel economy quote. I'm sure it's possible for a 318i or smaller Beemer to get excellent fuel economy, but my guess is it would be in the 30s and going slower than the pack.

I am disappointed that I've not heard anything lately about Gov. Schwartznegger's Hydrogen Hummer

What I just said about the American public applies to California - when there is enough grass roots support, a serious energy policy will happen.

61.5mpg lifetime - 82mpg in recent months

Best Run >
www.cleanmpg.com

"fanatic" is what the lazy call the dedicated

Hi Delta_Flyer:

___I believe he was speaking about his bike, not car The BMW 325i and ci are available as PZEV’s but his BMW bike wouldn’t pass a car emissions in any state let alone CA. the last time I was privy to such information? I think the new FI Beemer’s are better but not by much. I will look it up!

___As an edit, the 2005 BMW BV500 meets Euro II. I do wonder if this is the same spec as the Automobile Euro II but if it is, this thing couldn’t meet a car spec from the 80’s here in the states let alone today. A VW TDI would be far cleaner if you can believe that!

2005 BMW BV500
___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

Sorry, I forgot that BMW also made motorcycles. {blush}

61.5mpg lifetime - 82mpg in recent months

Best Run >
www.cleanmpg.com

"fanatic" is what the lazy call the dedicated

Hi GeoMoto:

___See my edit above although I have read about BMW’s motorcycle emissions in the past. Some of the best in the motorcycle realm but even those with FI and a CAT were terrible by comparison to any new car that could be streetable here in the US.

___Delta_Flyer, I forgot to congratulate you on hitting the magic 1K post level the other day. Congrat’s!


___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

Does that mean you get a hyperposter star?

<Best Tank Economy!><Best Tank Endurance!>

Not a BMW, but here are the numbers from my last emissions test for my carbureted '98 Honda CBR 1100XX:

Idle Test-----------------Final-------------Idle
Pollutant ----------------Reading--------Standard------------Result

Hydrocarbons----------1326------------1800------------------Pass
(HC) in PPM

Carbon Monoxide------0.53-------------5.50------------------Pass
(CO) in %

Don't really know what any of this means, but some of you were debating the pollutant levels of motorcycles and didn't know the values so I thought I'd share my numbers so you'd have something to go by.

<Best Tank Economy!><Best Tank Endurance!>