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Old 04-30-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default May 15 Gas Out

This came to me today from a riding (as in bicycle) buddy in British Columbia, Canada. For what it's worth:

NO GAS...On May 15th 2007

In April 1997, there was a "gas out"
conducted nationwide in protest of gas prices. Gasoline prices
dropped 30 cents a gallon overnight. On May 15th 2007, all Internet
users are to not go to a gas station in protest of high gas prices.
Gas is now over $3.00 a gallon in most places.

There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the Internet
network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up.
If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take
$2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companies
pockets for just one day, so please do not go to the gas station on
May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil industry
for at least one day.

If you agree, resend this message to your entire contact list saying,
''Don't pump gas on May 15th"

I thought this was better than resending. On the other hand, I've always doubted the effectiveness such campaigns.

By the way, I filled up earlier today, so you know I'll be well beyond the 15th before I need to refill.

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Old 04-30-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: May 15 Gas Out

Higher than normal purchases just before and after is the result.

It only matters if nobody drives on May 25th.

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Old 04-30-2007, 09:35 PM
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Default Re: May 15 Gas Out

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Higher than normal purchases just before and after is the result.

It only matters if nobody drives on May 25th.
Those of us with hybrids can do our gas purchases further upstream (or is it downstream) from the 15th.

Well, you see, I am skeptical, but who knows? I didn't take part in the '97 gas out, so I am surprised it had such an impact.

Anyone else have an idea?

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Old 04-30-2007, 11:32 PM
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Default Re: May 15 Gas Out

You'll forgive me, but the logic is a little dubious:


Quote:
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There are 73,000,000+ American members currently on the Internet
network, and the average car takes about 30 to 50 dollars to fill up.
If all users did not go to the pump on the 15th, it would take
$2,292,000,000.00 (that's almost 3 BILLION) out of the oil companies
pockets for just one day,
The math is based on the idea that all 73 million American internet users all fill up their tanks on the same day to get to that 3 billion. What are the chances that all 73 million would ever fuel up on the same day, ever?

It's also rather dubious that everyone concerned who decided "not to get gas" will actually make any difference by chosing a particular day that they won't fill up on. They will fill up beforehand, or afterhand, or not needing it, won't fill up at that time. In the long run, that's not any different then any other week in the monthly picture to the fuel industries.

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so please do not go to the gas station on
May 15th and lets try to put a dent in the Middle Eastern oil industry
for at least one day.
Just a reminder, so little of our fuel comes from the Middle East, it's kind of silly to believe that they'd ever notice it if you didn't gas on a particular day. While it's convienant, to think our woes are due to a bunch of greedy Middle Eastern Businessmen who have most of our fuel, it's Canada and other countries, as well as ourselves that produce about 97% of the fuel we use.

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If you agree, resend this message to your entire contact list saying,
''Don't pump gas on May 15th"

I thought this was better than resending. On the other hand, I've always doubted the effectiveness such campaigns.

By the way, I filled up earlier today, so you know I'll be well beyond the 15th before I need to refill.
I like the mentality. The idea that not getting gas on one day supposedly will have such a dramatic effect, yet there's no "reduce fuel usage for a week" campaign, is there?

I got gas once last month, on the 15. That means that 29 days out of that month, I didn't get gas. Many others here are in similar shoes. Is the fuel industry disturbed by the fact that thousands like us didn't fill up on 29 of those days that month? Of course not. Because lots of other people did fill up on those days.

This is kind of like holding your breath. At best you're inconviencing yourself. But hey, knock yourselves out, and if it lowers gas prices, hooray! I suppose I'll be participating as well, just because I don't think I've ever filled up on a Tuesday.

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Old 04-30-2007, 11:36 PM
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Yep. Everyone - Just don't buy gas on May 15. Buy it on May 14.

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Old 04-30-2007, 11:39 PM
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Yep. Everyone - Just don't buy gas on May 15. Buy it on May 14.
Sorry, but I see you especiality is hybridology, not fuelreplacementology. Out of your depth, you are.

There is another problem. The idea did not originate with me, nor did it even come from this country. It came from Canada. It would seem to me that, as we and Canada share a continent/border, we should also share the burden of this gas-out.

Therefore, I challenge our Cdn brothers and sisters to rise up and support this nobel cause. . .

Indeed, all you who call yourselves Homo sapiens hybrid join this great cause! Remember you have nothing to loose, but ONE DAY WITHOUT GAS!

Screw the petrol companies!!!

AUX ARMES! AUX ARMES!

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Old 05-01-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: May 15 Gas Out

Imagine if mass emails went out encouraging everybody to reduce global warming by breathing once every two minutes....back to the topic of saving gas - the only way to reduce it is long term changes of improving fuel economy with vehicle choice, better driving, more efficient homes....

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Old 05-01-2007, 05:23 AM
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Sorry, folks - check out these links:

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/gasout.asp

http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/nogas.asp

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Old 05-01-2007, 05:42 AM
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Default Re: May 15 Gas Out

This goes back to the 1970s or earlier and still has not worked, why do people still fall for it?

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Old 05-01-2007, 06:06 AM
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Default Re: May 15 Gas Out

Only two things will put downward pressure on gasoline prices: people choosing fuel-efficient vehicles over SUV's and other gas-hogs, and people choosing to drive less.

I live a half mile from work and drive a Prius. And yet I see signs of resentment towards me from people driving gas-hogs. Figures, huh?

Harry

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