Saw this on Fox news today

http://www.efuel100.com/default.aspx

How much does 500 lbs of sugar cost?

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Great find.

Just looking at the stock market, I think if you buy in BULK BULK BULK sugar is about 12 cents to 15 cents per pound. Saw from Brazil sugar is $190 per metric ton... if you buy 1 million metric tons. I think a metric ton is 2,200 pounds.

I think, just ballpark, 100 pounds of sugar will = 7 gallons of pure ethanol.

The yeast is cheap, like 50 cents per 7 gallons.

Looks like home brew is about $2 a gallon, not $1, but it is an interesting concept.

The real savings will be turning waste, sugary by-products of other things into ethanol.
Clean table sugar IS cheaper than gasoline, but only ~30% ? less?
Waste products are really cheap, or free!
( How about scraps from a bakery, or candy store??? )

One suggestion from the web site was to collect waste from bars and breweries.
How cheap can you get spoiled or out of date Budwiser? Sure, it's only 4 gallons of ethanol per 100, but it could be nearly free!

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And it is quite the rage in micro brewing beer. (legal)

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Mark Smith
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WOW finally a use for Sugar (I'm diabetic) only $10,000 for the equipment to brew 5 gallons a day. Sign me up .

5 gallons per day, worth $4 a gallon.... $20 a day.... x 365 days a year.... $7300 of product.... subtract input costs, and maybe, it will pay for itself in 4 years?

It's like the hybrid arguement tho: Cost vs. Payback is not the only reason to buy it.

There is a certain "coolness" factor to making your own fuel.

There is also a certain "drudgeness" factor in cleaning and maintaining your fuel making equipment which is conveniently omitted from the linked website.

Maybe, but maybe not.

If it hooks up to your city sewer, and I think it does, it is mostly automatic.

How often do you have to clean the inside of your dishwasher or clothes washer?

I'm not saying it is that simple, since I have not seen it. But it could be.

Perhaps, we'll have to wait and see. I was thinking it will be more like the home brewing where I hand wash everything because cleanliness counts.

home brew takes what... 3 weeks? Longer?

Lots of time for infection and spoiling. Cleanliness DOES count for sure with that.

Here, we brew in hours, not weeks. There's not much time for spoiling, and I think it may "steam sterilize" between cycles, kinda like a dishwasher.