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Old 01-22-2006, 11:22 AM
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Old 01-22-2006, 12:27 PM
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Hi JayTheHun:

___I would tend to differ but your experiences may be completely different then mine? How is that for being politically correct

___Good Luck

___Wayne R. Gerdes

Hehehe. I've always read that but now I'm reading where people are exceeding the EPA rating.

...I hate the taste of crow. lol

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Old 01-22-2006, 07:29 PM
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I'm not unsure, it will be a Prius. I only mentioned the one thing better on the Honda was the oil change so all facts good or bad would be mentioned. The Prius that can also be make plugin Hybrid is the winner by far. Jim
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Old 01-22-2006, 09:31 PM
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It really comes down to personal preferences, feeling/emotion each vehicle will give you while driving, and it's style in YOUR eyes. Either car is only as good as it's driver. One is a full hybrid, the other is a hybrid assist. They both are excellent vehicles and serve thier owners well. They get the SAME real world mileage comparing the first gen CVT HCH to the first gen Prius ... and the first gen MT HCH to the second gen Prius. The second gen HCH is moving up and fast. A lot of new owners are getting over EPA from the lot without effort, even though the engines are not broken in nor is it proper temperature. It looks like the HCH II is going to be the best yet for the everyday driver under normal circumstances. One is NOT better than the other unless you have ideal conditions for that particular vehicle, then yes, the Prius is the 'city' vehicle, that is if you are the type to use the EV mode to it's fullest extent. The Prius is also more of a 'status' vehicle, it stands out, it has a greater cost, pay over MSRP, and it still isn't the most fuel efficient hatchback . Now if you want to drop an extra 10k or so for the plug-in feature go ahead, but for all that $$$ in total I could buy a second vehicle such as an Insight (which is also has a status quality to it) to keep my HCH company.
I can get over 60 mpg in my HCH I in relaxed city driving (light to medium traffic). I chose the HCH without a thought of the Prius, because personally, I cannot stand a center dash layout ... turns my stomach. Maybe if I was seated in the center as in the McLaren F1. I also prefer the HCH I guages to the HCH II ... it truly comes down to what invigorates your spirit and will make you smile, not I or the other drivers of the various fuel efficient vehicles.

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I was also told by a Toyota dealer that toyota originaly sold/shared thier hybrid technology with ford and honda, and thats where they got thiers.
Well, Honda is a completely different system ... so I wouldn't say that is where they got thiers from at all. and I will repeat what some others have said that is true ... Honda operates independantly of the IMA ... meaning it will always be able to run without the battery and IMA motor if something goes wrong ... AND some have used the battery to get a couple miles to a gas station on IMA alone (pure EV)!!! From what I recall someone stated that the Prius needs all of its components fully operational to run, someone else could verify this.

As far as the coefficient of drag, it is a .02 difference. The 06 HCH has a 0.28 (source: automotive.com) vs the prius at 0.26 (source: wikipedia.org). Unless you are traveling at higher speeds ... then this will be of NO difference ... and IF you ARE traveling at higher speeds (ex: highway) then the Prius is out of it's maximum efficiency potential. I do believe that a front liscence plate would be/make a greater difference than the stock drag difference.

I guess in summary ... get what YOU WANT for whatever reasons they may be and love the choice you made ... but also be happy with others choices and don't flame thier car just because you have a different one ... wanna know why? well there will be something if not next year, within the next 5-10 or so years that will make any of our cars seem like gas guzzling, low tech vehicles ok, maybe not that extreme ... but if they do perfect HCCI engines (which can run of ANY fuel) ... and have stronger more powerful batteries (in the process) and higher HP/PW/KW and higher TQ/NM output electric motors on a broad band (which Honda has come out with every 3? years) ... well over 100 mpg might be easily done off the showroom floor or even much better and all in a comfortably sized car. The future is bright and possibilities limitless (if we make it that far )

I am happy for all whatever is in thier driveway/garage ... and there is no wrong choices freedom is a beautiful thing

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Old 01-24-2006, 06:45 AM
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Sorry i didnt read every reply but the deal breaker for my decision to buy the prius was the back seat didnt fold down in the honda. I needed it too for my work. either car would be an excellent choice. Good luck. Dean

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Old 01-24-2006, 06:27 PM
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Conchdiesel
Do consider additional sources such as 'Consumer Reports' to find out the reliability of earlier models, other online discussion groups, and where you live try to talk to owners of both to get their opinions in your locale.

After all your research then I hope the most difficult decision for you is which exterior color to choose!!!

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Old 01-24-2006, 07:08 PM
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This explains the Toyota synergy drive.

http://www.toyota.co.jp/en/tech/environment/hsd/


I tried to find the link for the honda drive but could not find it in a non pdf format..

Im happy with my car & your happy with yours, some think the toyotas is an ugly car and some think the hondas is an ugly car. lol, this is a battle that would never be won.....

P.S. I would like to see the new honda mini truck in a hybrid!! (that would be a cool vehicle)...

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Old 01-25-2006, 06:27 PM
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Default Re: Prius vs. 2006 Civic Hybrid

There are a lot of great qualities between the Civic and Prius. Either one you choose, you'll both be happy with your decision AND always curious about the "other side" at the same time. Too bad you can't afford both of them.
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Old 01-26-2006, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by bluesesshomaru17
.... One is a full hybrid, the other is a hybrid assist. ....the Prius is the 'city' vehicle, that is if you are the type to use the EV mode to it's fullest extent.
No argument that the Prius uses EV more then the HCH, but the fact is the two vehicles get very similar "real-world" milage.

Lets keep in mind these two vehicles recover wasted energy through regenerative braking, but outside of that, the old saying "you don't get something for nothing" holds true. By this I mean running in EV mode requires the battery to be charged. If it is not able to be fully charged by regenerative braking alone, then the ICE is being used, to some degree, to also charge the battery and indirectly propel the vehicle. While not totally driven by electric, the Prius is more like a modern day train locamotive, where an ICE drives a generator, which powers an electric motor, then the HCH. But as MPG shows, the end result is similar.

Taking this one step further, if either vehicle were a "Plug-in" EV, that electric would come from your home (or office) and there is a cost - maybe more / maybe less then generating it using an ICE. It boils down to efficancy.

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Old 01-26-2006, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by kevin_psx
Incorrect. Prius is also an assist hybrid meaning it uses the engine 99.9% of the time--- overcoming air resistance--- as its moving down the road.
Please don't shoot this messanger.. shoot bluesesshomaru17 as your quote was his statement !

Seriously, I think the "FULL HYBRID" term bluesesshomaru17 used was just what is "commenly" (maybe incorrectly? ) used when a vehicle can drive in EV only mode (however short that time may be) OR be powered by an ICE.

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