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Old 01-26-2006, 07:07 AM
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Default Re: Prius vs. 2006 Civic Hybrid

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.... One is a full hybrid, the other is a hybrid assist. ....the Prius is the 'city' vehicle, that is if you are the type to use the EV mode to it's fullest extent.
No argument that the Prius uses EV more then the HCH, but the fact is the two vehicles get very similar "real-world" milage.

Lets keep in mind these two vehicles recover wasted energy through regenerative braking, but outside of that, the old saying "you don't get something for nothing" holds true. By this I mean running in EV mode requires the battery to be charged. If it is not able to be fully charged by regenerative braking alone, then the ICE is being used, to some degree, to also charge the battery and indirectly propel the vehicle. While not totally driven by electric, the Prius is more like a modern day train locamotive, where an ICE drives a generator, which powers an electric motor, then the HCH. But as MPG shows, the end result is similar.

Taking this one step further, if either vehicle were a "Plug-in" EV, that electric would come from your home (or office) and there is a cost - maybe more / maybe less then generating it using an ICE. It boils down to efficancy.

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Old 01-26-2006, 07:52 AM
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Incorrect. Prius is also an assist hybrid meaning it uses the engine 99.9% of the time--- overcoming air resistance--- as its moving down the road.
Please don't shoot this messanger.. shoot bluesesshomaru17 as your quote was his statement !

Seriously, I think the "FULL HYBRID" term bluesesshomaru17 used was just what is "commenly" (maybe incorrectly? ) used when a vehicle can drive in EV only mode (however short that time may be) OR be powered by an ICE.

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Incorrect. Prius is also an assist hybrid meaning it uses the engine 99.9% of the time--- overcoming air resistance--- as its moving down the road.
My Prius doesn't. Even without using pulse and glide, this data indicates the engine is running much less than 99.9% of the time.

Lately, I've taken to pulsing my Prius to +5 miles per hour of the speed limit and then gliding down to -10 miles per hour. The glide time is ~ 2x with the engine off so lately, I've been running the gas engine, at most, 50% of the time.

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