Proposed Wisconsin State Sales Tax Exemption For Some Hybrids - Should We support it?
“State Representative Joe Parisi and State Senator Fred Risser have introduced legislation to create a sales tax exemption of up to $1,000 on the purchase of a hybrid automobile that gets at least 40 miles per gallon combined city/highway mileage.”
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I think they should maybe just set a bar for mileage and raise it every few years. Give incentives to anyone that buys a car that exceeds that mileage whether it is a hybrid or not.
Re: Proposed Wisconsin State Sales Tax Exemption For Some Hybrids - Should We support it?
Hi Eric,
I am not a Wisconsinite, so only my personal opinion ..
Any SULEV, 40 mpg vehicle should be supported. Hybrids are a means to an end, not the goal itself. Heck, for all I know urine will be the next great leap forward
R2-E2, 2G Prius.
Highway/City/Husband/Wife MPG: 56.5, as of 12/2005, 26K miles
Jac Nasser, Ford President: "We are planning to launch a hybrid version of
this car [P2000] within this year [1998]. We will also make FCEV available in
2004."
It leaves out RX 400h, Highlander, Accord, and Escape owners.
As it should. We should encourage *high MPG* and a 20 or 25mpg hybrid is not high MPG. That's pathetic. ----- I would go so far as to say this sales tax rebate should go to ALL cars that are higher than 40mpg, regardless of technology used.
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But what about the whole issue of cleaner air? My hybrid is a ULEV. There are other hybrids (and non hybrids) that are cleaner than my car.
Not according to ACEEE.org. Your ulev-insight is the second cleanest hybrid on the road (score=55), because burns less fuel & reduces pollution along the whole chain (fewer wells, fewer refineries): http://www.greenercars.com/12green.html
When you discussing "cleanliness" you have to look past the tailpipe. You have to look at the whole chain from mid-east desert to supertanker smoke to refinery chemicals, and because your ulev-insight get ~70mpg, it is *cleaner overall* than the sulev-prius or sulev-civic.
troy
Last edited by ElectricTroy; 06-29-2005 at 10:56 AM.
Re: Proposed Wisconsin State Sales Tax Exemption For Some Hybrids - Should We support
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Originally Posted by ElectricTroy
We should encourage *high MPG* and a 20 or 25mpg hybrid is not high MPG. That's pathetic.
I don't think that getting about 30 mpg in my FEH is pathetic. It is 10 mpg higher than my old 1998 Dodge Caravan that it replaced. And it is probably 5 mpg that I would've gotten if I had purchased a regular Escape (I am not sure/don't care on the mpg rating of the non-hybrid Escape).
Not every vehilce has to get 40+ mpg to contribute to the cause of using less gas, producing less polutants, and being economical.
I don't think that getting about 30 mpg in my FEH is pathetic.
No. I said 20-25 mpg was pathetic. Still I don't think 30mpg deserves a rebate, because there are already *non*-hybrid SUVs that gets 30mpg, just by being efficient.
Hmmm.... perhaps if the ruling was sub-divided. Say, >40mpg for cars & >35mpg for SUVs? Then your FEH would qualify.
Re: Proposed Wisconsin State Sales Tax Exemption For Some Hybrids - Should We support it?
zadscmc,
I DO understand where you are coming from; and I am very glad that you picked the hybrid over the non-hybrid Escape, since it is cleaner, and has better FE.
That said, I do not want my tax dollars to be spent encouraging SUV (or any other low FE/dirty vehicle) ownership. A 15 mpg hummer is a whole lot better than a 10 mpg hummer, but both are travesties.
40 mpg is an interesting number nowadays, because if it was the fleet average, the US would not be dependant on middle-east petroleum for domestic transportation. That is a very worthwhile goal to shoot for, and it is not going to achieved by subsidizing 25 mpg vehicles. One could come up with draconian laws to try and support incremental improvements in FE, but keeping things simple has it's advantages. Trying to keep all americans in oversized vehicles is not it.
R2-E2, 2G Prius.
Highway/City/Husband/Wife MPG: 56.5, as of 12/2005, 26K miles
Jac Nasser, Ford President: "We are planning to launch a hybrid version of
this car [P2000] within this year [1998]. We will also make FCEV available in
2004."
Proposed Wisconsin State Sales Tax Exemption For Some Hybrids - Should We support it?
