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Old 02-17-2006, 10:54 AM
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My most recent "interesting" experience came when I was in the right lane, doing the speed limit (65). An 18 wheeler was in the lane next to me as we approached an on ramp (he was going only slightly faster than me).

A car on the on ramp came up next to me (in theory, he was doing the right thing by accelerating to highway speed on the ramp). I maintained speed and he was right next to me for a couple of seconds. Just before the merge lane ended he decelerated enough to swerve in behind me. He flipped me off. I waved at him.

I guess he thought I was supposed to move over and crash into the 18 wheeler to get out of his way.

He slowed down enough to swerve around the 18 wheeler (a two-lane swerve), passed it, and did another two-lane swerve so that he was in front of me. He then decelerated to something less than 65. I slowed accordingly, but I closed the gap quite a bit -- enough to see that he was once again flipping me off. I waved again.

He took the next exit -- only about 3 miles from the exit where he entered the highway. I still wonder if all that aggravation was worth it to him.

If the 18 wheeler had not been in the lane next to me, I WOULD have moved over, because I was taught that that was the right thing to do. If you're in the right lane with traffic trying to merge into your lane, you move left if possible; then move back into the right lane as soon as safely possible.
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Old 02-17-2006, 12:56 PM
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Right. Some people can drive just fine with a divided attention and some cannot. I haven't had a car accident in over 15 years, and yet I can talk on the phone or compose an email while driving. The one's who bug me are the folk who *can't* and do so anyway.

Personally, I think there should be more than 3 classes of licenses (C "car", M "motorcycle", and CDL "commercial-grade driving license").

A T-class license for heavy trucks (Dodge RAM or larger, but still having only four wheels).

A S-class license for SUVs and long station wagons.

This wouldn't be initiated for punitive reasons. But I firmly believe that there's a *different* driving strategy to optimize FE and safety, when comparing a Ford Focus to a Toyota Highlander.
An excellent idea. IMHO, also, for safety's sake, you should be at least 25 yrs old to drive anything larger than a focus. Why does a teenager need to drive anything bigger?? Just recently here in taxachusetts, there have been several fatal suv accidents involving high school "children" with driver's licenses (DWI). I think the parents should be held liable to an extent for letting them drive these urban assault vehicles in the first place.....

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Old 02-17-2006, 01:15 PM
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I'll sign-on to your idea - AshenGrey.

Don't know who said it here, but she mentioned that if the police just stopped vehicles on rude acts it would stop. Since it would put revenue in local governments, I don't understand why it does not happen more. It just seems over years that gradually more and more inconsiderate driving behavior has been tolerated until the present situation....

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Old 02-17-2006, 01:42 PM
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i watched the news yesterday, two cars collided with each other and both drivers were killed at high speed impact.

One of the drivers was agressively changing lanes and trying to pass people on the highway, it came to a point where he lost control of his car and swerved to uncoming traffic where another car hit him dead on... both gone like that.

one guy minded his own buisness the other guy decided to save some time, we are all victims remember that. Your actions can be someone's else last, FOR F***'S SAKE JUST LEAVE 5 MINS EARLIER YOU DUMB S***

sorry seeing news like that is very unfortnate.

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and now I drive a salvage nwh20 prius that gets almost to 25 km/l with 192,000 km to date.

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Old 02-17-2006, 05:19 PM
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In Savannah people park in no parking zones and put on their hazards, but I've never seen anyone just park in the middle of the road.

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tailights that blind flashing tailgaters...
I imagine those would be easy to make, I was driving behing this SUV once and it had a broken taillight, it was so bright when he put on the brakes, I couldn't stand it. I turned and got off the road so I wouldn't have to be behind him anymore.

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for safety's sake, you should be at least 25 yrs old to drive anything larger than a focus. Why does a teenager need to drive anything bigger??
25 seems a little high to me, only because my step brother was working doing siding before he got in to the Marines (he was only 20 then, 21 now) he had a Dodge Ram (no double cab crap) and he used it to carry around siding and tools and stuff. I think everyone should be required to prove they need a truck before they can buy/drive one. I was fine with my brother owning the truck, but we sold it to my little sister's boyfriend, who certainly doesn't need it. I have a problem with that.

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Old 02-18-2006, 08:48 PM
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The pastor just gave a message on anger and mentioned someone expressing road rage at him.

Somehow in some screwy way, drivers forget there are people in those vehicles.

Somehow in some twisted way, e-mailers and surfers forget there are people receiving their messages.

Rudeness is still rudeness.

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Old 02-22-2006, 04:12 PM
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Thumbs down Some Take Pride in Rude Driving

These are some experiences I have had.

Back in 2003, I was on the access road to I35 in Lewisville. The freeway has three lanes, but I had to speed up to 75mph to get on because someone was in the rightmost lane not yielding. Some guy was chatting while driving. The Texas licence plate on his Escalade SUT pickup truck was:

"MF 4"

What am I supposed to think?

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A few months ago an Escalade SUV went out of the way to make turning from Preston Road to the LBJ road difficult. BTW, he did not use the lane to turn into the freeway but went straight ahead.
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I'm not putting this in the Escalade thread as it might be more procative. Local Dallas Escalade commercials had lines have lines that come just short of saying "you drive this to kick a**", and "others will follow or get out of the way".

Yes, I've suffered rude bikers, Civics, etc.

I definitely think GM's marketing has catered to the bully and it's clearly exhibited by Escalade drivers more than your typical driver.

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Old 02-22-2006, 06:25 PM
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These are some experiences I have had.

Back in 2003, I was on the access road to I35 in Lewisville. The freeway has three lanes, but I had to speed up to 75mph to get on because someone was in the rightmost lane not yielding. Some guy was chatting while driving. The Texas licence plate on his Escalade SUT pickup truck was:

"MF 4"

What am I supposed to think?
You should think that particular person has obviously not been taught how to drive or is intentionally being A-hole. The point I was trying to make to you earlier, is that this person would drive just as poorly in a Honda Civic as in the Escalade. If you have a problem with this person, you get no arguements from me. It's when you start projecting HIS habits and stereotyping other Escalade owners that I strongly disagree with.

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A few months ago an Escalade SUV went out of the way to make turning from Preston Road to the LBJ road difficult. BTW, he did not use the lane to turn into the freeway but went straight ahead.
So over the last 3 years you have have had two incidents with Escalade owners that really stick out. I see crappy driving at least 3-4 times a day, as I am sure you are. I would say to have 2 over that time period is a pretty low percentage. How many mid-size cars have you seen drive like Muleheads over the same time frame?

For instance today, on the way home I saw a Ford Truck weaving from one lane to the next and cutting people off so he could hurry up and get to where ever it was he needed to be. Then right behind him came a Honda Accord and a BMW M3 doing the exact same thing. I think the Honda was even a little more reckless in his manuevers. What did I think. I thought all 3 were a bunch of retards, regardless of the vehicle they were driving in.

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Old 02-23-2006, 07:00 AM
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My most recent "interesting" experience came when I was in the right lane, doing the speed limit (65). An 18 wheeler was in the lane next to me as we approached an on ramp (he was going only slightly faster than me).

A car on the on ramp came up next to me (in theory, he was doing the right thing by accelerating to highway speed on the ramp). I maintained speed and he was right next to me for a couple of seconds. Just before the merge lane ended he decelerated enough to swerve in behind me. He flipped me off. I waved at him.

I guess he thought I was supposed to move over and crash into the 18 wheeler to get out of his way.

He slowed down enough to swerve around the 18 wheeler (a two-lane swerve), passed it, and did another two-lane swerve so that he was in front of me. He then decelerated to something less than 65. I slowed accordingly, but I closed the gap quite a bit -- enough to see that he was once again flipping me off. I waved again.

He took the next exit -- only about 3 miles from the exit where he entered the highway. I still wonder if all that aggravation was worth it to him.

If the 18 wheeler had not been in the lane next to me, I WOULD have moved over, because I was taught that that was the right thing to do. If you're in the right lane with traffic trying to merge into your lane, you move left if possible; then move back into the right lane as soon as safely possible.
Hehe... too much. But to be honest if you are in no rush you could have easily slowed down and let the guy on. You knew he was going to pass you so why make it hard? I think part of the blame goes to you too.
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Old 02-23-2006, 07:08 AM
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Well, IMHO it's his job to merge into traffic.

In this guy's case, he wanted to get in front of me, so I should have slowed down. But what if the next guy expects me to speed up to let him get in behind me? I think the best thing I can do is be consistent.
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