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Old 05-16-2005, 01:02 AM
Eskrimast1 Eskrimast1 is offline
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Jason- Using your Wikipedia link, I found what may be the best simple explanation of AT-PZEV emissions technology yet. The last sentence is particularly striking . . .


Partial zero-emissions vehicle

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A Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle (PZEV) is an administrative category within the U.S. state of California for low emission vehicles.

This vehicle category was created as part of a bargain with the California Air Resources Board (CARB), so that the automobile manufacturers could avoid producing mandated zero emission vehicles (ZEVs), which would have required the production of electric vehicles, under the theory that a large number of low pollution vehicles would produce the equivalent pollution reduction of a lesser number of zero-emissions vehicles. Electric vehicles have been limited by the relatively high cost, limited capacity, and slow charging of electric batteries for power storage. Despite these limitations, electric vehicles have proven very acceptable to those who have elected to operate them, so this administrative change had the unfortunate effect of essentially destroying an emerging but still very small market.

The vehicles constructed to meet the PZEV requirements are called Super Ultra Low Emission Vehicles (SULEVs). Various techniques are used to reduce pollution in these vehicles. In order to qualify as a PZEV, a vehicle must meet the SULEV standard and, in addition, have zero evaporative emissions from its fuel system plus an extended (ten-year/150,000-mile) warranty on its emission-control components, which incidentally covers the propulsion electrical components of a hybrid_electric_vehicle.

Some PZEVS (such as the Toyota Prius) are classified as AT-PZEV, standing for Advanced Technology PZEV.

It has been projected that if all motor vehicles sold within the Los Angeles basin were of the SULEV type that the area's severe smog problem would likely disappear within fifteen years.

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Old 05-16-2005, 12:22 PM
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Wikipedia is an encyclopedia created by anyone and everyone. Visitors can edit the pages directly... it's pretty amazing.

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Old 05-17-2005, 06:29 AM
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Does L.A. still have a smog problem? Last time I was there (july 2004), the air looked clear to me.

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Old 05-17-2005, 06:39 AM
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Hi ElectricTroy:

___I was driving through the LA Basin last August (2004) and it was terrible! You may have caught a particularly windy and clear day because what I saw looking West towards L.A. was a disaster in the making

___Good Luck

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Old 05-19-2005, 08:57 AM
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Even simpler:

PZEV = SULEV + 10yr/150K mile warranty + no evaporative emission

AT-PZEV = PZEV + ZEV-enabling technologies (electric)

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Old 05-25-2005, 09:48 AM
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It's better than 10 years ago but still the worst in the US. However, given the abundance of hybrids I see in Southern California nowadays it will likely just keep improving.

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Does L.A. still have a smog problem? Last time I was there (july 2004), the air looked clear to me.

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Old 05-25-2005, 12:11 PM
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Its not just the hybrids that are helping out L.A. as blueskies mentioned. Its the new abundance of PZEV/SULEV rated cars in general, hybrid and ICE cars alike- everything from a Ford Focus to a Subaru Legacy 2.5.

However, I read an article in the L.A. Times a few months ago that said that one of the major causes of air pollution in L.A. is the presence of several dozen container ships idling 24 hours/day outside the ports of L.A. and Long Beach everyday. These international ships have little or no emissions controls and burn diesel, which results in particulate matter and other emissions that are much worse than any vehicle emissions in intensity and amount. This isn't confined to the L.A. area alone, but to all major port cities.

And the funny thing is, my HCH was offloaded from one of these smog belching ships at some point.

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