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01-19-2005, 10:57 PM
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Real Name: Steve
Location: Atlanta, Ga
Hybrids: 2004 Civic CVT Hybrid
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Suprising things
2 Things: (Just talking)
Last month I was on my way to work in my HCH.
I saw a huge jam ahead so I turned off the freeway, and so did many other drivers.
We drivers followed the usual alternate route.
The stop light turned green and everyone began climing the medum size hill. Me, setting up the usual traffic buffer saw an old Ford Bronco speeding up behind me just as a right turn lane appeared. Guess he didn't like my buffer.
The Bronco took the right turn lane and was accellerating hard. I thought he was going to pass me & jump into my traffic buffer so I let off the gas a little.
Suprisingly he made a hard right turn in protest for me with tires squealing.
In fact he slid all across his right turn. I first saw the rubber peel off the rim as it hit the far side curb of the road he was turning in, then noticed the curb had bent his rim as he smacked a fire plug. I didn't see any water spraying out of the hydrent though.
As I continued on my journey I saw him slide across a poor home owners lawn.
I thought "Man! Some people's kids!"
Another one:
My tiny one hoarse town of Hoschton Ga is a popular speed trap. The road through town begins at 55, then 1/10th mile of 45 then 35MPH in town.
3:00 In the morning I can take advantage of a 2 mile gradual downhill by sometimes rebooting my HCH. There is a slight hill in the road that slows me down to under 30MPH. Sometimes a cop sits in the dark at that hump, and I've passed by several times goine about 25-30MPH.
One night a few of weeks ago I passed by him, just rolling by at 3:15AM.
Unknowing, he stealthily followed me through town without any lights on.
I have to take a left turn very hard as fast as possible to get over a 2nd hump, then roll right into my subdivision.
So I took the Left and to my suprise I had flashing lights behind me as I was pulled over. He told me that I was driving suspiciously slow then "whipped around that corner" and wanted to check me out !
He had nothing to give me so after a conversation about 60MPG achievements and hybrids he let me go.
Since then when I've passed him at 3:00AM we just smile & wave at each other.
Go figure!
Efficient drivers do it better.
1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT
Last edited by Hot_Georgia_2004 : 01-19-2005 at 10:59 PM.
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01-20-2005, 09:50 AM
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lost - boy
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Real Name: andrew
Location: southern california
Hybrids: Honda Civic Hybrid '05
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georgia,
i've been having a few issues lately myself with the california drivers, epically on base. apparently to them going the speed limit is going too slow, and 10 miles per hour+ is average. this leads to some interesting actions taken by said drivers when i turn. it seems my departing gives them the courage to honk or otherwise declare their anguish with my driving the speed limit.
im curious what you mean by rebooting your hch?
i've been practicing my driving, but am having a bit of trouble keeping my results , and unfortunately the only way for me to break 54.8mpg is to draft semi's on the freeway. :/ and even then i could only keep the 55.2 for so long.
take care.
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01-20-2005, 01:10 PM
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Real Name: Steve
Location: Atlanta, Ga
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Thanks l3ement.
Rebooting is a way to force autostop while still rolling down the road.
The technique envolves being in a favorable place (flat or downhill) where you take the car out of gear and manually switch the ignition key back one click to shut down the engine, then immediately switching back to run but not restarting.
The electronics in the car will reboot.
This will allow your HCH to travel with zero fuel consumption.
It is a way to dramatically increase your average MPG.
Things to consider about doing this:
1.Your electric steering will be sluggish for a few seconds after rebooting.
After you hear a relay "click" and the airbag light goes off steering is normal.
2.Depending on the situation, driving without your engine on might not be safe.
3. If you have a CVT don't restart your engine going over 40MPH.
Even if your shift is in N, if you're going over 45 the drive takes a hard jolt, which can't be good for the system.
4. You won't get any regeneration while your engine is off.
5. Repeated use of the brake pedal can deplete the vacume assist.
If you are out of vacume then the brake pedal will be substantially more difficult to press.
6. Pedestrians may not hear you coming and walk right in front of you.
This almost happened with the idiot skate board rider in my neighborhood.
Poor guy was so suprised to see me that he almost fell to the ground.
Personally, when I first leave my house at 3:00PM I'm battling a 2 mile gradual up hill. MPG is not good especially on a cold engine and I hate it.
After 10 miles going basically uphill the engine finally begins to warm up.
I drive back through that route at 3:00AM and the roads are virtually abandon. If I'm paticularly behind in MPG there's about 3 places ranging from 1-2 miles where I can safely just roll going 40-25MPH.
Efficient drivers do it better.
1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT
Last edited by Hot_Georgia_2004 : 01-20-2005 at 01:17 PM.
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01-20-2005, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Hot_Georgia_2004
I'm battling a 2 mile gradual up hill. MPG is not good especially on a cold engine and I hate it.
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LOL! I SO empathize with you !
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01-20-2005, 07:57 PM
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Hybrids: 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid
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Hot G
I'm sure you are a safe driver.
I'm sure you are smart enough to do the reboot thing.
But please.
For the sake of others who may not have have your IQ, don't mention the procedure here.
One person may misunderstand your explanation and get themselves killed, or harm their car.
It just ain't worth it.
And I wonder if there are liability issues for Jason.
Last edited by kenny : 01-21-2005 at 08:36 AM.
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01-21-2005, 09:02 AM
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lost - boy
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Real Name: andrew
Location: southern california
Hybrids: Honda Civic Hybrid '05
Posts: 25
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i am one to believe that information should be available to everyone, no matter what the circumstances. call it freedom of speech, or just the freedom of information to all; but if you take said info and use it in a destructive manner then you have no one to blame but yourself for not doing the proper research.
thanks georgia, i appreciate it immensely.
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01-21-2005, 06:32 PM
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Location: Eastern Washington State
Hybrids: 2005 Toyota Prius
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i graduated from Washington State University in Pullman a little over 2 years ago. I was there for 5 and a half years. I got a bachelors and masters, so I wasn't taking my dear sweet time. Anyway, I lived in an apartment complex in an area of town which was all apartment complexes and there were only 3 roads into this area, the main and most traveled road had a pretty significant incline to drive up to get to this neighborhood. The other way was a back road that came directly from campus and it had a switch back corner and two hills, so it was pretty nasty in the winter. The third access was a road that came from the far end of town and you didn't take it to get in our out of this neighborhood unless you wanted to take the scenic route. Since probably 40% of the students in Pullman lived on that hill there was a lot of traffic on the main road. Winters were the worst. Pullman is on the boarder between Washington and Idaho. It gets a lot of snow as a general rule. So mornings where we were all waking up to 6 or more inches of snow you knew that somebody would biff it at the bottom of the hill because they chose to drive down the hill too quickly or with no regard to the fact that snow is slick. I had the unfortunate opportunity to view from afar many people slide through the intersection at the bottom of the hill. Lucky for them nobody was in the intersection, but it was still very dangerous. Frequently the plates on the cars which went sliding down the hill were from out of state.
Well, the point of all of this is that there are bad drivers out there, everyplace. Too bad they all can't be good drivers.
It has been said:
Hybrid drivers come in 3 flavors, greenie, techie and cheapie. Pick any 2.
2005 Prius, Melinium Silver over gray, package 5 (AI)
Last edited by JeromeP : 01-21-2005 at 06:43 PM.
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