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Old 07-30-2008, 01:16 PM
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Default Valve stems -- interesting problem

http://techno-fandom.org/~hobbit/cars/valvestem/

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...This is why I was really disturbed to discover, only a year after getting the new tires, that the valve stems on my wheels were starting to crack around their own bases and appeared to be well on the way to leaking or possibly even separating completely from the rims. Now, *that* would suck at highway speed, wouldn't it?? This was on all four tires, so it wasn't like I had brushed up against a curb. A little research turned up a couple of articles about poor-quality offshore valve stems making it into tire installations, but then failing as little as six months later. ...
I came across this over at PriusChat and it looks to be something universally important to vehicle safety. Good Prius friend Hobbit chased it to ground.

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Old 07-30-2008, 02:23 PM
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Default Re: Valve stems -- interesting problem

I noticed that over at CleanMPG last year when he started posting about it. I had my tires rotated in my HiHy at Discount Tire a few weeks ago and then received a letter in the mail a few days later.
http://www.dtccares.com/advisoryLetter.shtml

I just had the tires replaced on my HCHII. I guess I should have asked about it, but hopefully they have removed these from the market for new installs. Still, there are lots of these bad valve stems on vehicles being driven around.

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Nice to know... thanks!
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Default Re: Valve stems -- interesting problem

OK here's the deal. I've dealt with many, many tires throughout my career so far, and I have never seen a bad valve stem cause any kind of massive tire pressure loss (aside from physical damage from curbs, sabotage, etc).

I've seen valve stems cracked so badly that the brass tube was exposed all the way around and they still did not leak.

Now I'm not going to say I haven't seen them leak, because I have.. many times, but when they do leak it is a very, very small leak. When I encounter one that does leak, you can usually make it leak worse by pushing inward on the stem (hissss....), but these stems are typically angled outward slightly, and while spinning at speed inertial forces push it outward actually slowing or stopping the leak while moving.

It's not uncommon to see some dry-rot on the rubber parts of the stems after a year or so.. possibly due to poor quality and what-not, but I don't feel this necessarily makes your car unsafe to drive, or would lead to a massive blow-out of the stem.

If you are savvy enough to check your tires' condition and pressure on a regular basis (like you should do regardless), you should be savvy enough to catch problems with valve stems long before they reach the point of becoming unsafe.

9 out of 10 times when I see a tire leak at the stem, it's not usually the stem itself but the schrader valve leaking (most due to missing caps).

This is still a very informative thread though. If you're overly concerned about it, get the bolt on style stems, or at least the TR600 high-pressure stems (regardless of pressure ratings, they do seem to be built much, much better). Also get the shortest stems you can get without interfering with access.

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Old 08-04-2008, 08:35 PM
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I've ordered the screw-on / bolt-on valve stems but will carry them in the glove compartment. If I have a failure, I have a full-size spare, and when I get back, have the stem replaced on the failed and the 'brother tire.' I'll send both bill to the manufacturer.

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