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Old 05-11-2008, 03:48 PM
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That speech references conservation more times than GWB did his entire presidency....

Bob - I guess fair enough about what GWB did to stop that program but ... in the end ... it accomplished nothing concrete. I still stand by what I say that Clinton was not a particularly green president. McCain would be more green (IMO).
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Fair enough:

http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/conten...554/426?ck=nck


This is what GW defunded in January 2002:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partner...on_of_Vehicles

This ranks right up there with Reagan ripping the solar collectors off the White House and gutting Carter's energy programs.

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Bob,the logic of your reply is unsound. Your reply points a finger at George W. Bush only. The link you have provided has a line that states "the program was cancelled in 2001 at the request of the automakers".

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Bob,the logic of your reply is unsound. Your reply points a finger at George W. Bush only. The link you have provided has a line that states "the program was cancelled in 2001 at the request of the automakers".
If I remember correctly, George W. Bush took office in January 2001. It was his decision since he calls himself "the decider." As for the automakers requesting it, they weren't "the decider."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/inaugural-address.html
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President George W. Bush's Inaugural Address
January 20, 2001 ...
This was his decision:
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Science 18 January 2002:
Vol. 295. no. 5554, pp. 426 - 427
DOI: 10.1126/science.295.5554.426

News of the Week
TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH:
Bush Trades Hybrid for Hydrogen Model
David Malakoff and Robert F. Service

Secretary of Energy Spencer Abraham announced last week that he is junking the Clinton Administration's effort to build superefficient cars in favor of building vehicles powered by pollution-free hydrogen fuel cells. Abraham released no budget details of the new program, but analysts say most of the old program's research efforts will continue. The deadlines for getting a car on the road, however, have been pushed way back.
The facts and data have not changed.

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If I remember correctly, George W. Bush took office in January 2001. It was his decision since he calls himself "the decider." As for the automakers requesting it, they weren't "the decider."

Bob Wilson

Sorry Bob, that is your thought--not a documented fact.

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