GreenHybrid Interactive Hybrid Car Resource
Home Discuss Articles Compare Share Shop
GreenHybrid.com   Hybrid Car Forums   Tech Information   Mileage & Specs   Photo Gallery   Buying Guide  
GreenHybrid Mileage Database - Click here to track your MPG! Join Hybrid car discussions today - Create a FREE GreenHybrid Account

Go Back   GreenHybrid - Hybrid Cars > Central Information Center > Hybrid & Related News

Hybrid & Related News New cars, press releases, articles and more. Reply only. Have news?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 12:38 PM
GreenHybrid Founder
 
Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,579
Default EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

Quote:
A gas-optional hybrid technology that enables hybrid vehicles to be plugged in and charged by a conventional 3-prong, 110-volt home electrical outlet will be released today by EDrive Systems LLC, a consortium of advanced vehicle technology companies.

EDrive Systems LLC will present and demonstrate its cutting edge EDrive technology as applied in a Toyota Prius on Monday, May 2 through Tuesday, May 3 at the Clean Cities Conference being held at the Palm Springs Convention Center. By combining gasoline power with electricity from a home recharge, an EDrive-equipped vehicle can average 100 to 150 mpg for roughly the first 60 miles of the day, compared to 45-55 mpg for a conventional Prius. The vehicle also has the capacity to run in "electric-only" mode at neighborhood speeds, resulting in zero emissions.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050502/dam042.html?.v=8

.

Read my new biweekly column, The Western Street 7.
Visit my political debate forum, Volconvo.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 03:30 PM
Stevo12886's Avatar
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Steven Sloan
Location: Gainesville, GA
Posts: 808
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

Good news for those who make short commutes and live in the city, but is it a good thing to get popular right now? So many people still think that hybrids need to be plugged in, was it a good idea to let this cat out of the bag so soon? I guess we'll see in the coming months.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 03:35 PM
GreenHybrid Founder
 
Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,579
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

I don't like it one bit. Not a bit. But, I guarantee you come back 5 years from now and the "hybrid" will no longer be the new kid in town.

.

Read my new biweekly column, The Western Street 7.
Visit my political debate forum, Volconvo.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 03:39 PM
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Posts: 839
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

What is there not to like, Jason ?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 03:42 PM
GreenHybrid Founder
 
Real Name: Jason Siegel
Location: Houston, TX
Hybrids: 2004 Toyota Prius
Posts: 4,579
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

The public as a whole doesn't understand what hybrids are. They don't realize that they aren't slower and don't have to be plugged in. Publicity for plug-in hybrids will only reinforce ignorance of the technology [and its flexibility] and ultimately confuse the consumer as to what hybrids are all about. Add to it the fact that our energy infrastructure is not equipped to handle 100 million plug-in cars. This is opening up a whole other can of worms.

.

Read my new biweekly column, The Western Street 7.
Visit my political debate forum, Volconvo.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 03:53 PM
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Larry S. Singleton
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Hybrids: 2007 TCH and Loving It !
Posts: 1,427
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

I think Jason is correct about a "plug in option" negatively affecting the image of Hybrids and relating them to the "electric car" days.

But I suppose it just depends on the timing, and who is shopping. Knowledgeable Hybrid owners might want that as an option - I for one vote would love that for my HCH - "top off" the battery at night with a plug in the garage. BRILLIANT !!

I read one story a while back about a "plug-in" hybrid car under development that would be able to drive the first 40 or so miles under electric power ALONE !! That would be simply AWESOME in that most people's round trip commute is less than that. Imagine having a full 120-130 horsepower if you need it but being able to commute on electric only almost every day !! My commute is city street only, so that would be PERFECT for me.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 04:43 PM
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Posts: 839
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

larss, this company is a joint venture of CSenergy, which is the company that was collaborating with Felix Kramer of CalCars.org. So I think this is the promised commericializtion phase they were talking about.

The unwashed masses that have somehow missed the hundreds if not *thousands* of announcements regarding hybrid cars, yet are still confused what a hybrid is, will remain so until their neighbor's neighbor gloats daily that petrol prices and scarcity is not his/her problem.

I have read that a new product typically must reach 10% market 'penetration', and then takes off as a general consumer product -- presumably by word of mouth. This mod is not going to confuse the target audience of people like me and larss, that recognize it as the wonderful advancement that it might be: a viable, mass market solution to weaning our cars off petrol.

I completely agree that improvements to the grid are mandatory in the future. (GO) EV's just might be the driving force to do so, unlike the chicken&egg hydrogen economy nonsense. Right now there are three such cars; 100 million will take a while ;-)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 05-02-2005, 05:37 PM
Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Gregg Schoen
Location: Chicago/Wrigleyview
Hybrids: 2005 Toyota Prius
Posts: 32
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

If recharge takes 8 hours, most people would do it overnight, when electric capacity is abundant, even excess ("base load" which operates continuously, like nuclear or hydro, is a use it or lose it situation.) If recharging gets faster lots of cars plugging in during the daytime is a real issue. Regardless, our country needs to start thinking about where we will get all the extra power we're going to need, both to replace oil and growth. Hopefully land subsudies for refinieries and insurance guarantees for nuclear will turn into cost or manufacturing subsudies for solar, wind, and other renewables. Right after world peace, I'm sure...

I'd LOVE a plug in hybrid. I do mostly city driving, and the condo association provides the electric in the garage - it'd be like FREE gas!!

I wonder if this company replaced the main drive motor, or just the battery. The Prius on electric only doesn't have the performance for driving in traffic, though I hear a big limiter is the battery - the computer only allows so much drain at once to protect it, apparently the motor has more oomph available. I'd hope so, replacing more than the battery and some electronics would REALLY make this a big project (as if it isn't expensive enough already, I'm sure)
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2005, 07:01 AM
Ridiculously Active Enthusiast
 
Posts: 839
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

Hi Gregg,

CalCars has said earlier that the all_electric speed limits for the Prius II cannot be improved upon with extra battery. I take that to mean the max electric only acceleration is also fixed at regualar Prius II levels. So in practice one would have a Prius II, with a full battery for some 60 miles of driving. If the sum total is a gas mpg of 100 - 150 during that distance, I consider it a tremendous advance -- although like you, not exactly what I *really* want ..
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 05-03-2005, 08:07 AM
Enthusiast
 
Real Name: Gregg Schoen
Location: Chicago/Wrigleyview
Hybrids: 2005 Toyota Prius
Posts: 32
Default Re: EDrive Systems Launches New Plug-In Hybrid Technology

Yah, I was afraid that would be the case. Electric only acceleration leaves something to be desired, though with a warm engine and 7 bars of charge (and presumably a cool battery) the system is much more aggressive in its use of electric. I'd assume with a completely full charge even more so, but I've never seen more than 7 bars. Still, I'm sure I'd have the engine kicking in quite a bit, but for 150MPG I can live with a quarterly trip to the gas station
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Topic Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Details about the Highlander Hybrids Dianne Toyota Highlander Hybrid 7 10-07-2008 08:36 PM
Highlander Hybrid details Dianne Toyota Highlander Hybrid 9 01-13-2008 07:39 PM
Marketing the Ford Escape Hybrid ElectricTroy General Forum 0 11-23-2004 06:03 AM
Enova Introduces New Series Hybrid Systems Jason Hybrid & Related News 1 09-25-2004 02:29 AM
GreenHybrid Referenced in L.A. Times Magazine Jason Our Announcements 9 08-29-2004 07:00 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:22 AM.


Home | Hybrid Discussion Forums | Hybrid Articles Archive | Mileage Database | Hybrid Photo Galleries | Compare Vehicles
Terms of Service - Privacy Policy - Advertising
GreenHybrid.com, Copyright 2008
InternetBrands.com Automotive Network

SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51