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Old 12-15-2007, 05:59 AM
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"We had a general concern about our fleet because some rival services were beginning to buy Toyota Prius models," Mackasek said about the little gas-electric hybrid car, popularly hailed as the automotive definition of "green."
Mackasek considered moving Valera in the same direction. But he then discovered that the Prius-green movement of his rivals wasn't all it seemed to be.
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Old 12-15-2007, 11:39 AM
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Put more simply: Valera reports its carbon emissions. CCX, using United Nations and other standardized verification and crediting protocols and procedures, approves the report. Valera is then required to pay for CCX-approved programs, such as reforestation and the development of wind and solar energy projects, designed to offset the carbon emissions Valera described in its annual report.

It's complicated. And there are many critics who say the carbon offset program is as much of an environmental ruse as putting little gas-electric hybrid cars in the service of a luxury limousine company . . .
The gas-electric hybrid will eventually be sold and regardless of how few miles put on it in the lemo company, the next owner will get a great buy on a high efficiency vehicle. Meanwhile, the lemo company produced paper not worth the ink it is stained with.

I'm not a greenie by any stretch of the imagination but I sure hate fraud. There is a term for this:

Greenwashing

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Old 12-16-2007, 09:56 AM
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where is the town car hybrid??? 4 cyl 2.3 liter atkinson cycle (half of current engine displacement) + full hybrid (same system used in FEH)??

merc. anounced hybrids "will enter market soon"..

bla bla bla allover

my tip for toyota:

build a 6 inch streched prius + 6 inch stretched camry

for honda:

6 inch stretched civic hybrid.

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I keep saying that Toyota needs to make a Avalon hybrid.
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A Yukon Hybrid or Mercedes GL320 CDI would be fine replacements for a Yukon Denali or S550. An E320 CDI would probably work, too, if the front passenger seat was moved all the way forward.

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A Yukon Hybrid or Mercedes GL320 CDI would be fine replacements for a Yukon Denali or S550. An E320 CDI would probably work, too, if the front passenger seat was moved all the way forward.
GOOD POINT!

You want a hybrid lemo? Stretch a Yukon and you'll have your hybrid lemo.

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