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I just hope it does not turn out to be the Chevette of hybrids . . . an experience so bad that the BAS is seen as what hybrids do. Like the Silverado before it, I fear the hybrid claims will far out weight the hybrid performance and a number of buyers will be burned on the experience. What happened in our case with the Chevette was my wife won't have another GM product, ever. She didn't blame the small car but rather the car maker.

The risk for GM is that a bad experience with the Saturn BAS hybrid could lead tarnish their 2-stage hybrid. It is hard to sell something new when you have to admit, "Unlike our Saturn Vue and the Silverado hybrids, this is the 'real thing.'" The better business plan has long range goal of repeat customers.

Bob Wilson

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I didn't think GM "overbilled" the Silverado hybrid. They made no bones about the vehicle being a start/stop system combined with a mobile generator for power tools. I don't call it a piece of junk. It's just not what *I* need a hybrid for.

From what I've read, BAS is a legitimate, entry-level mild-hybrid system. It's not as powerful as an IMA, but it's not as expensive either. The key to the success of BAS is whether the system is RELIABLE.

Unfortunately, GM is no stranger to quality control problems. Consumer Reports said it best: a 3-year-old GM has the same reliability as a 7-year-old Honda and an 8-year-old Toyota.

But, to be optimistic, the Saturn VUE could collectively save a lot of gasoline if sold in mass quantities. At the stated price point, it's affordable for a lot of buyers. If GM gets a big installed base of BAS users, they will be less likely to be skeptical/hesitant when more advanced technologies become available.

It all boils down to whether GM builds this SUV and the related hybrid system with longevity in mind. If it's dead by 70,000 miles like most other GM hulks, there will be hell to pay!

I think I'll wait until they hit the show room floors since making judgement calls from the literature is not wise. We'll see if it has capabilities beyond "start/stop."

My real concern is if the BAS turns sour, like the Chevette did for GM small cars, it will be used by some to say, "See what pieces of <debre> hybrids are!" This will unfairly burden the GM 2-stage hybrid. That doesn't mean I'm convenced the GM 2-stage hybrid is perfection, we don't know much about it, but rather the GM system deserves a fair crack at the market, not burdened by the Silverado reputation.

Bob Wilson

Operation Iraqi Oil Freedom:

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My other 1500 cc car:

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