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Old 11-27-2008, 06:36 PM
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Unhappy 44 MPG Pontiac G5???

I have over and over seen a Commercial on ( Denver ) T.V. that says "Come check out the new Pontiac G5 that gets 44 MPG!"

I thought that was pretty phenominal for a non-hybrid.
I went to the Pontiac web site:
http://www.pontiac.com/g5/?seo=ysm_|...5_|_pontiac_g5

And it says "37 MPG Hwy". Still good, but not 44 MPG.

Is this false advertising? Or is the dealer using the MPG at 40 MPH?
( The sweet spot in most cars is 35-40 MPH )
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Old 11-27-2008, 07:38 PM
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Default Re: 44 MPG Pontiac G5???

It is even worse at www.fueleconomy.gov.

Call the TV station and leave a complaint?

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Old 11-30-2008, 06:46 PM
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Default Re: 44 MPG Pontiac G5???

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I have over and over seen a Commercial on ( Denver ) T.V. that says "Come check out the new Pontiac G5 that gets 44 MPG!"

I thought that was pretty phenominal for a non-hybrid.
I went to the Pontiac web site:
http://www.pontiac.com/g5/?seo=ysm_|_2008_Pontiac_Retention_|_IMG_Pontiac_G5 _|_G5_Pontiac_-_Pontiac_G5_|_pontiac_g5

And it says "37 MPG Hwy". Still good, but not 44 MPG.

Is this false advertising? Or is the dealer using the MPG at 40 MPH?
( The sweet spot in most cars is 35-40 MPH )
Actually, that's pretty close to the 'old style' EPA rating. Now, whether or not a given person can meet it - well it depends. Keep in mind that that is with the A/C off, engine warmed up, and very gentle driving cycle with 60 MPH top speed. Really, if you're using any hypermiling techniques, nothing that radical.

Also keep in mind that was the specific MPG-optimized version with a higher final drive and slightly re-tuned ECU. Again, nothing other than a blast from the past, like the FE-optimized Civics from the 80's and 90's. It's an expedient strategy for squeezing 5-10% improvement for relatively little compromise in usability and relatively little development cost. For drivers willing to make the trade-off in acceleration performance, might be an OK vehicle.
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