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Old 08-05-2004, 08:56 AM
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2004 Honda Civic Hybrid with CVT:
62.4 MPG on the dash.
60.7 MPG calculated at the pump.
602.9 miles / 9.927 gallons = 60.73 MPG.
Now I'm tied with Hot Georgia's Sparky, though not for long as he has many more tanks.

Somebody recently asked me for a photo on a previous good tank as proof.
So this tank I took a digital photo of my dash.
It shows 62.4 MPG for 602.9 miles on the TRIP A meter, with one bar left on the gas meter.

I don't have any webspace to store it.
Is there a way to post the photo here?
Or could I email it to someone with webspace?

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Old 08-05-2004, 09:32 AM
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First off, congratulations, Kenny! It's quite an accomplishment to get 60 mpg calculated for a tank.

Do you use cruise or AC much?

I also noticed you posted your tank. I think we've been putting the calculated value in for mpg -- at least, I have.

I'm not sure how you can put a picture here. I've been posting any pictures of my tanks in the honda_civic_hybrid group in the Yahoo! groups. You can post pictures there.
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Old 08-05-2004, 09:55 AM
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For this 64.2 MPG tank I used cruise control as much as possible.
Probably 550 of the tank's 603 miles were on cruise control at 53 MPH, driving alone.
There are very few hills in my driving; just several mild inclines.
There are a couple of large bridges that supetankers pass underneath at the Port of Los Angeles and Long Beach.
I take these at about 40 MPH uphill.
If I "drove with the load" I would never crest the bridge.

It is a LOT of trouble to keep up this mileage in the city driving I have to do.
When I actually HAVE to stop at a red light I select the lane with the most cars.
When the light turns green it is more likely there are no cars behind me so I can creep up to speed.
I roll through stop signs. etc.

I can't "drive with the load" cause I'm only going 53 MPH on the freeway.
If I slowed down on inclines I'd drop to 45 or less, very dangerous.
Even at 53 I'm pissing off the most impatient of drivers.
But when they see my license plate "SIP GAS" they almost alway change lanes immediately.
And I have no desire to speed up past 53 on the declines.
That would waste gas compared with holding it to 53.
Of course I only drive in the right-most of 4 lanes.

I never used the air conditioner on this tank.

I really am not sold on the driving with the load thing.
Remember Physics 101?
The force of gravity is constant, going up or downhill.
The way I see it whatever you lose going uphill you gain going downhill.
So, it's a wash.
I think the priority is to maintain the speed that the car's drag is optimized for, I think about 45 to 55 MPH.
It seems that this 64.2 tank is proof that just leaving it in cruise control is best.

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Great job Kenny!
I'm looking forward for you surpassing me!

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1003 miles a tank personal record. 74MPG calculated. HCH1 CVT
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:18 PM
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Congrats, Kenny. You now have the most efficient lifetime average of HCHs!

On another note, did anyone else realize that 4,000 miles disappeared from the database overnight? I remember it being less than 100 miles from 1.5 million when I went to sleep, and now it's at 1,496,000!

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Old 08-05-2004, 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by Jason@Aug 5th 2004 @ 5:18 PM
Congrats, Kenny. You now have the most efficient lifetime average of HCHs!

On another note, did anyone else realize that 4,000 miles disappeared from the database overnight? I remember it being less than 100 miles from 1.5 million when I went to sleep, and now it's at 1,496,000!
that missing 4000 miles was Me.....

I removed my lifetime mileage so I could see an accurate MPG for the tanks I had put into the database......

I can put it back if I can still keep a running total of the tanks I have added, disregarding the lifetime data.....Is that possible?

Thanks...........
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Old 08-05-2004, 03:28 PM
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Whichever way you prefer is fine. I was just wondering about that 4k

If you add a mileage override, you can still add individual tanks. The database just won't use them when making aggregate calculations (they'll be ignored for your general statistics).

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